I hope you nail one of them giants!!! That land does look amazing, it reminds me of the farms I used to hunt in Illinois with the tall grass and weird shaped trees, very bucky looking!
Yeah, I'm not a fan of shooting fawns or others shooting fawns. I guess to each his own though as long as it's legal. I know I always joke about shooting fawns and button bucks, but I'll go without venison for another year before I shoot a dog sized fawn. That's just me though, like I said, if it is legal, and its your thing, then go for it.
Been sitting here thinking, and rethinking. Using a climber and hunting field edges like I was thinking satellite scouting isn't really conducive. For those of you who predominately use climbers, how often do you find a climbable tree on the edge of the woods? I'm guessing not often or many to choose from, sticks and stands seems more likely. Seems climbable trees are 20 or more yards into the woods, likely due to canopy and available sunlight creating the lack of lower branches. Kinda wishing I would have kept one of the lonewolf stands and just needed some sticks.
I'm the opposite Swampy. I'm thrilled for anyone how arrowsa deer of any size. Long as they have a legal tag. I've sat for 100s 9f hours before and passed up 100s of deer some years. Some years (usually cold/brutal) weather makes me wanna just "get it over with". I've tagged a truck load of fawns late season because I like the meat and I don't wanna torture myself anymore. If I have an open tag, I'm hunting. Some years its just nice to have it "gone"
A deer is a deer is a deer. Some shoot for score, some shoot for age, some shoot for meat. We all take a life regardless of why we do it. In the end it doesn't matter why we choose to kill, but we chose to end a life anyway. I'm just happy that we as hunters prefer wildlife for sustenance and not our own pleasure. Too many sicko's in this world that like to kill their own for entertainment value.
I've only hunted field edges a few times, and it was in Illinois. there were a few straight trees along the edges, but I did really have to look for them as opposed to setting up over the best sign. Even deeper in the woods I went straight trees were hard to come by, but the woods was all old overgrown farmland homestead type if that makes sense.
I couldn’t imagine limiting yourself to finding a straight tree with a climber… we have them on my little piece on the field edge, but they aren’t “THE” tree. I think next year I might actually entertain the saddle. I’m still young (34), but I’ve found myself becoming uneasy when standing up/adjusting/drawing my bow while standing on the XOP platform. Think I’m becoming scared of heights which I’ve never been. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I drove across the entire state of Missouri this weekend. Man there are some beautiful places I wish I could live and hunt. Only thing that surprised me is that in the middle of the state for about a 50 mile stretch, that Missouri turns into the cowboy boot, illegal fireworks, and adult toy shop capital of the world!
Not so much a straight tree, just a tree that is climbable without a bunch of lower branches. I'm not scared of heights, per se', but untrusting of manufacturing when cost is a deciding factor. I don't trust the equipment I'm depending upon.. Double edged sword.
Cowboy boot..... Us locals call that the "bootheel" of Missouri. I'll bet you a paycheck I know exactly what "adult toy shop" you're talking about. Don't judge us. We try to cater to everyone's tastes. Brett, if you came through there you were SO close to me. Let me know next time you're going to be in my neck of the woods.
Speaking as one who pretty much only hunts from climbers, the answer is very rarely. Also, it depends on the particular patch of woods. Then again, the only place I hunt were the are fields to have "edges" is Kentucky. There are no fields in the Ozarks. Just cattle pastures here and there. Yeah, it would have been a good idea to keep the lock on and sticks as a fall back option if you have ag fields where you hunt.
We definitely see eye to eye on this. We definitely differ here. I've said it many times since I first logged onto the forums back in 2007 (that was in the HNI days): To say we hunt for sustenance and no other reason simply isn't true if we are honest with ourselves. For those of us who hunt multiple states, by the time you factor in everything it costs to bow hunt (tags, bow/gun/crossbow, fuel, food, etc...) you could buy a steer, have it processed, put it in a freezer and probably break even or save money and have a lot more meat to eat as a bonus. Pardon the Star Trek reference, but I must be part Klingon because I live for the thrill of the hunt AND the thrill of the kill. If the anticipation of the kill doesn't excite you then where does the adrenaline rush come from? Why does your heart feel like it's going to beat out of your chest when your prey is approaching? Why do you have to fight to control your breathing because you think your prey will hear you? Why do you tremble and shake as your prey gets closer? If you don't feel any of the things I just mentioned then why hunt at all? Just buy meat at your local grocery. In this day and age to say we hunt for "sustenance" is a fallacy. We hunt to kill. Somewhere in our genetic makeup is a pure predator, and I, for one, embrace that aspect of myself. In fact I LOVE it.
Neither am I Joe, but like someone said before in this conversation, when you really think about it it's just a deer. I could have shot the fawn I orphaned last week when it walked by me at 20 yards and bedded down at 35 yards, but despite the emotions I expressed in my previous post I am not a merciless killer. When I shot the doe I didn't know she had a fawn with her. When I realized she did I felt remorse and pity for the fawn. Maybe the most merciful thing to do would have been to shoot the little girl, but I just couldn't do it. She was bedded at 35 yards and I had my muzzleloader in my hands. It would have been quick and painless. I may be a predator, but I'm not a bloodthirsty animal.