I know how you felt hanging that stand. Im almost as heavy as you and i bet im in much worse shape. My only Lonewolf that i still have is in a tree or i would meet you and let you have it for the season. Much easier than those bigger steel stands. I used to have 5 of them but once i got a saddle i downsized to save room in the garage. Its a bullet to bite but its a buy once cry once purchase. $350 should get you a lonewolf and 4 sticks used on marketplace or craigs list. Cheaper than all the saddle get up. If i decide to take that stand down ill let you know. You are maybe only 5-10 min drive from my work from what you described.
Thanks buddy. I slipped off my stand after only going up one stick and was having a real hard time mock hanging it at 6 ft high. That steel stand sucked. Lol. I will keep trying and practicing bc it is something I need to master.
I never called the stands heavy, never would at this point my life. Big and bulky, absolutely; impossible to sneak through thick brush in the dark without turning into a tangled, obnoxious and cussing mess, yep, been there. Its not about the weight, its about the savings in bulk and size.
I feel your pain. Tried it and could never figure out how it worked. Probably has more stuff than OnX but if you can't figure it out, what good is it? I use OnX for more than hunting. Just last weekend, it got us out of a jamb when we were trail riding. the leader got cute and decided to take a "shortcut". Yeah, no shortcut and refused to admit he was lost. LOl
Take a little screw in hook (ahem, assuming local regs allow, cough cough ahem) and screw that in at the right height, tie a paracord loop to back of stand at corresponding height- get your sticks up, climb up, haul stand up on a line, hang the loop on that little hook and now you're hands free to finish ratchet strapping it to the tree. Or, Muddy and I think Millenium both make a bracket that independently straps to the tree with a post that is affixed to back of stand- all you do is ratchet that bracket in, and then haul your stand up and insert that post into the bracket. Then ratchet down the stand per normal
I did same basic thing to my LW hand climber. It works fine but you still have same tree type needs as you would with a climber. True it's lighter and arguably more comfortable depending on your climber.
You process and detail oriented guys kill me! I am like a heat seeking missile that is locked on his target. So you want me to do these 19 steps? What?! Hahaha. No wonder I sucked at hanging yesterday.
Ok, I'll chime in I guess. If I were in VS's pretty little shiny shoes, I would go with the LW Alpha for my first lock on. Yeah they are pricey--buy once, cry once--and you could maybe get a bit cheaper options if that is your jam. I run the smaller Assault, but I'm all of 180 pounds. Svelte I know. It took me practically an entire season to really get used to the sticks, straps, up, down, lineman rope, transitioning and hanging in all the wrong trees only to move and do it again. But I swear I don't think I'd go back to a climber unless LC has it in a tree and says "go sit in my climber". Happened once ok, and I know you're all jealous. I will trade the learning curve for the less bulk and more tree options opposed to hanging up on every limb, vine, shifting weight, on the way thru the woods in the dark, cussing and sweating of having a dang climber on my back. Cue the saddle bois.
It sounds more tedious than it is- you leave that loop tied to the stand full time. The biggest PITA for me is always the hanging the sticks part. It is impossible for me to get a set of sticks up anywhere near quietly without having to make several trips up and down them as I go.
Those Hawk sticks suck. I tried them for a season and dumped them. I went with Trophyline sticks, much better. I almost gave up on using sticks because of the Hawk sticks.
Yeah, I couldn't get them tight. Felt my IQ dipped below 80 several times while trying only to realize it wasn't me, it was the webbing tension bs. Then I thought, what if I get up 15 feet and have to deal with those steps when Im having trouble at 6 feet...and do it while in the dark. No thanks. Live and learn.