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Observations on Blazer vanes

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by pastorjim08, Sep 28, 2010.

  1. pastorjim08

    pastorjim08 Legendary Woodsman

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    I have been shooting broadheads almost exclusively for the past month in preparation for opening day. I was being pretty inconsistant and I really couldn't figure out why. I finally noticed the other day the differences in my Blazer vanes was my problem. I shoot Slick-Trick Magnums out of a Bowtech Captain on CE Maxima Hunters. Here are my observations.

    Blazer Twisters, absolutely no rhyme or reason where the arrows would go or the angle they hit the target. Craziness!

    Blazer Quick-Spin, All arrows hit four inches right and four inches low, when compared with my field points.

    Just straight Blazers (factory fletched) Broadheads hit right with my field points.

    Sometimes I'm kinda thick-headed, according to my wife, so it took me a little while to completely fiqure this out. I'd like to know if any of you guys have had a similar situation. I mean with the arrows, not with your wife thinking you're thick-headed.

    Blessings.....Pastorjim
     
  2. Rancid Crabtree

    Rancid Crabtree Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I dont think Bohning makes the Quick spin or the twister. I think those are NAP products and I would expect them to fly diff. than Blazers. Glad to hear you have it all worked out.
     
  3. pastorjim08

    pastorjim08 Legendary Woodsman

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    Point well taken. Just another oversight on my part.

    Blessings.....Pastorjim
     
  4. nicko

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    regarding your question, i have not seen significant differences from broadheads to field points just switching vanes....i shoot a 2 blade magnus which has always been deadnuts for me no matter the size, direction, or spin characteristics of the vanes - maybe its the 2 blade workin it for me......but nice job playing with it and finding your answer
     
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    USarmyMP Weekend Warrior

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    What kind of rest are you using. you may be getting slight fletching contact if you are using anything other than a drop away.
     
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    Am I reading your post right that you have arrows with different sets of fletchings on them?
     
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    I think the 95 Bravo (that's old school for us MPs... I know; theyv'e changed the MOS designation now) nailed it...

    I'd REALLY look closely for fletching contact if you're experiencing a difference if all other variables remained the same except the degree of fletching offset.

    I could see a helical or offset inducing more drag and lowering your POI, but not throwing it right or left... Hmmm. Either way, as has been said: Kudos for you to take the time to figure out what you needed to before the season starts.
     
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    I have seen no difference so far, just switched from the Blazers to the quick spins, didnt have to change anything.
     
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    I noticed a significant difference between the Quikspins and Blazers when I changed over. At 40 yards the Blazers were 4" higher.

    Archery is about consistency and you can't shoot consistently if your gear is not consistent from shot to shot and that's everything from arrow spine to rest function including fletching type, fletching contact and broadhead alignment.
     
  10. pastorjim08

    pastorjim08 Legendary Woodsman

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    I am using a Ripcord, so I don't think I am getting any fletching contact. I have checked and I don't see any plastic or anything on the bow or rest.

    Yes, that is what happened but part of it was by mistake. I have been using the Quickfletch and didn't realize they made two different models, the twisters and the quick-spins. When I needed to refletch a couple of weeks ago, I had some laying around in my tackle box. I didn't pay any attention to what they were when I refletched and realized it afterwards. I don't even remember buying them. I also had some arrows that I had purchased that were factory fletched. When I starting throwing arrows everywhere but where they were supposed to go with the twisters, I got the new arrows out and discovered they flew great with the broadheads. That was the only reason I had three different types of fletching. That isn't something I would do normally. Discovering this fact has caused me to rethink getting rid of my fletcher. I also need to pay more attention to what I buy in the future.

    Blessings.....Pastorjim
     
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    kansasjosh Weekend Warrior

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    Thanks for bringing this up Jim. Now I know what to check tonight. I shot broadheads for the first time this year last night. I have been dead on the latter part of the summer with field points and have never had problems switching to my muzzys in the past but last night I was consistantly low and way too much for me...like 3". Racked my brain all night trying to figure it out and all I could come up with was I got a new string this summer. I was thinking maybe it slowed my bow enough that that was what I was seeing. But that didn't really add up because I didn't think a 100 grain bh could be that much different weight than a 100 grain fp. I could understand a little but not 3" at 20 yards. Always in the past when I put the muzzys on it was within an inch of field points.

    But reading this I realized "hey I switched to NAP Twisters this summer". Thought didn't even cross my mind that that might be the issue. I'll dig out one of the arrows I still have from last year with regular Blazers on it and try that tonight. Thanks
     

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