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NSA Leaked Report - Real or Sting

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  1. remmett70

    remmett70 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I really believe with how quickly the arrest and charges came down that the report leaked was a sting operation within the intelligence community to locate leakers. Unfortunately for Miss Winner, she is going to discover the Reality of her actions.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...0c031eab644_story.html?utm_term=.113ec078e9d2

    I also wonder if there should be legal consequences for news organizations that knowingly publish leaked "Classified" information to the public.
     
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    Should there be? Heck yeah!

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    Funny how quick they were to track this down so well yet no apparent truth on the russian hacking has surfaced.
     
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    remmett70 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Its a tricky fence to walk. There are situations where the media has a responsibility to report classified information, and other occasions that I think they have a responsibility not to. Hard part is knowing where to draw the line.
     
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    takemrarely Weekend Warrior

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    I thought the media was to report the news.....not arbitrarily report it.....the issue is more vetting the source of the news, which they don't do evenly....if it fits their agenda, they don't vet as thoroughly.....

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    Pretty much seals her fate.
     
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    Yeah going to be in longer than danny manning her sentence will not be commuted till another lib gets elected.
     
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    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    I doubt she gets commuted at all, that's a hard sell. The issue is she will be praised by some, which is wrong.
     
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    So...when does it become treason?
     
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    Yup. And what really chaps me is Manning had shared classified documents on the order of 100k (700k, I think)...yet was pardoned/commuted. That really makes no sense to folks who have ever held a clearance in the military/Govt (or have even worked with any sensitive data)...
     
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    Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
     
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    When our leaders realize all leaks are bad, not just the ones that hurt the other side.
     
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    The double standard for how classified information is handled is pretty stark. If your name is Clinton, apparently you get a pass. If your a 22 year old sailor, you get prison time. This young man had 6 pictures on his phone, no evidence that he showed them to anyone and he's getting prison time, and ended his career. Well deserved sentence for the young man, just illustrates that not everyone gets held to the same standard and that's unfortunate.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...otos-of-classified-areas-of-nuclear-submarine
     
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    And the medias role? I am seriously to the point where I can not watch the news without getting pissed.
     
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    What if the "leak" benefits the greater population as in Edward Snowdon? When should a leak be considered an act of treason versus an act of patriotism?
     
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    You can not be serious. Then again with the exchange rate you have half a mind.:biggrin:
     
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    I'll bite. How did Snowden's leak benefit the general population?
     
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    I would say that would be very extreme and very rare occasions. It may be beneficial for the public to be told general information but very seldom should that need to expose details of classified information.


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    Why, when a logical question is posed do you resort to adolescent insults?
     
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    I did not say he did, but many do. The larger questions as stated are A. when is a "Leak" a favourable action as opposed to tyranny and B. should someone accused of a leak not be innocent until proven guilty? Has society not got too far to judge before the law?
     
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