I don't care what Obama or anyone in congress thinks is right. We still control our local schools, and I wish my kids did not have to go school with an arm guard, but they both now have one at their schools. I don't need Obama or his cronies, I can get it done.
Some communities are ignorant and still won't allow armed guards at their schools. If obama really wants to mandate something or get something positive done, he needs to start here. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
Curious to know more about this armed guard? Tell me everything you can about it. Does he patrol, sit by a door? Wears regular clothes or an outfit? Has a pistol, or what? Thanks.
In my high school we had a LOE knows as a School Resource Officer, the guy was great. He was there to be open to students that may be experiencing problems at home and may require police intervention, partially there to crack down on the gang issues plaguing my HS and also there for protection of the people in the school. It was a great system, until Obama cut funding for the federal SRO programs. Now there is no LOE in the halls of any schools in the district. A lot of those guys loved what they did and were good people (I knew some personally).
I believe he was (I now for a fact he had a AR 15 in his squad car on the school premise). We also had betweek 8-10 unarmed 'security guards' that we're glorefied hall monitors. The typical 'security' guard was female around the age of 50, about 5'5" and weighed 200lbs with some being larger. Talk about a waste of funds and the false sense of security that creates. It would cost half as much to hire two part time police officers or armed security guards with the proper credentials. Edit: Also forgot to mention the SRO still worked holidays and summer on regular patrol, so he was never falling into a 'groove' and letting his guard down.
I think it's a fair point to make in the ad although the president doesn't decide how to protect him and his family, we the people do. Don't think other kids have a target on their backs like Presidential kids.
I'm sorry.. I have supported the NRA for over a decade now.. but I have to say.. this add is ridiculously short of actual rationale. Its dependent on the emotional response. The POTUS kids are protected from being kidnapped basically.. and that's just the way it is.. because the leader of the free world has other crap to think about. Armed guards in every school? Are you joking? One.. I want my daughter to live in a free world full of innocence.. that means she doesn't need to see an armed guard in her school everyday. Two.. who's paying for this armed guard? Three.. the answer to gun violence is not more guns. You don't throw hate at hate or fire at fire. Teachers shouldn't be armed at schools and neither should a guard.. what's to say one of them doesn't go wacko? Four.. the Secret Service protects the daughters of the president.. and he couldn't refuse the gesture even if he wanted to.. because the moronic leaders of the earlier portions of the 20th century were so afraid of communism that they made it so. And Bush had his kid protected too.. does that make him elitist? I even think she still is.. so he must be elitist too (according to the add). Five.. does this add even exist if a Republican is in office. Six.. I'm not stupid.. I know that the hidden agenda of the NRA (a lobbying organization) is to promote guns because let's face it.. a great bulk of their money comes from gun manufacturers. It's no different than a lobbying organization in favor of gambling.. well of course they are.. most their money comes from the gambling entertainer. I still support the NRA.. I'm just not a lemming. People watching this add need to ask themselves.. "what's in it for the NRA". And if you don't come up with the answer - money - you don't know too much about the way things work in this world.
I'm sorry.. I have supported the NRA for over a decade now.. but I have to say.. this add is ridiculously short of actual rationale. Its dependent on the emotional response. The POTUS kids are protected from being kidnapped basically.. and that's just the way it is.. because the leader of the free world has other crap to think about. Armed guards in every school? Are you joking? One.. I want my daughter to live in a free world full of innocence.. that means she doesn't need to see an armed guard in her school everyday. That's completely naive, who ever said the guns have to be visible? Two.. who's paying for this armed guard? Who pays for all the teachers salary's in the school disctrict? Is a few more salaries going to break the bank? Three.. the answer to gun violence is not more guns. You don't throw hate at hate or fire at fire. Teachers shouldn't be armed at schools and neither should a guard.. what's to say one of them doesn't go wacko? While gun related murders may decrease with the outlaw of guns, it has been proven time and time again that violent crimes skyrocket. http://forums.bowhunting.com/showthread.php?44574-Thought-provoking-videos Four.. the Secret Service protects the daughters of the president.. and he couldn't refuse the gesture even if he wanted to.. because the moronic leaders of the earlier portions of the 20th century were so afraid of communism that they made it so. Five.. does this add even exist if a Republican is in office. I don't believe a Republican would take take the actions Obama is taking, but we could play "what if's" all day long. Six.. I'm not stupid.. I know that the hidden agenda of the NRA (a lobbying organization) is to promote guns because let's face it.. a great bulk of their money comes from gun manufacturers. It's no different than a lobbying organization in favor of gambling.. well of course they are.. most their money comes from the gambling entertainer. I still support the NRA.. I'm just not a lemming. People watching this add need to ask themselves.. "what's in it for the NRA". And if you don't come up with the answer - money - you don't know too much about the way things work in this world.
Unfortunately I think you are a little bit naive if you think this world is ever going to be like Mayberry again. Of course it's what we all want for the kids but in reality, the world is an ever-changing messed up place. We aren't all just going to get along. There will always be crazy people and with the media the way it is now we are hearing and learning about them in a whole new way. We need to take precautionary steps to help. I do however agree with you on many of your other points. The NRA is obviously about promoting guns and making money. They are a business and would be foolish not to. Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
Scott, My daughters private school was easy, the Deputy Mayor daughter goes there. So we have a police man in the school and extra patrols in the area. He does not patrol the school. He's at the main entrance. My son's school and my wives have this setup we as a community put together and solved. 1 Uniformed Police man at the main entrance Each door is locked and guarded by an unarmed security guard with a radio back to the Police officer and main office. Each door to class rooms are locked once class starts, locked from the outside. We did not want a policeman roaming the halls, we as a community will be paying for this for our districts.
Of course they want to make money. They work a lot of hours just like us and employ a ton of people. They have to make money to keep that going. People have to pay bills. It would be real hard to find people to do what they do for free, so they have to make money. And it costs a ton of money to do what they do. Doesn't mean they don't believe in what they say. They are shooters, hunters, outdoorsman and women just like us, and they do not want to loss their American rights, just like us. They are defending one of our biggest and best freedoms, they deserve to make money while doing it. If you can do a better job and do it for free, please do, I would love t save money on memberships. But, Im willing to bet a lot there is no way you could.
We had two murders in my county in the past two days. Should we post police officers and/or armed guards on those streets forever as a result? My two cents and I will leave it at that....Darwins survival of the fittest just doesn't fit these days as even the most self chosen mentally and physically unhealthy people in our society are enabled......of forget it.
Well your Darwin quote does not work for me, I like this one Anyone with kids wants them to be safe, my entire family are at schools. As a parent it's my job to make sure my kids are safe. I do not want them to go to school with LEO's that are armed, but what choice do I have?
What about Republican Governor Romney and the state of Massachusetts.. the first state to ban assault weapons? Hmmmm???
Who is outlawing guns? The NRA add in question attacked the president for being an elitist because his children are being watched by armed guards and yours are not. The add wasn't a build up to protect the 2nd amendment.. it was a tear down of the current presidency. BIG difference.
' Do you think all the people that live in those neighborhoods should be required to register their legally obtained guns, and be required to limite themselves to 7 rds per magazine? I agree that this is an issue that there is no easy was of resolving, there is a common trait held by the majority of people that commit these acts. It just seems there is not easy and sensible way to keep it from happening. The current theories are all flawed in some way, some more than others. Maybe allowing volunteer teachers to be armed is a start, professional training over the summer and occasionaly suring the school year. There would need to be precations in place of course, maybe a biometric safe that engages an alarm in the main office when enabled. Who knows, but people need to be open minded to things that may acually work and have both proactive and reactive measure in place.
Germ, I am a little more barbaric in my thought process than you. I admit it. After awhile, if someone doesn't want to get with the program called planet earth, then they can just walk off and croak for all I care. As for being a father and making sure my kids are safe, I agree. I just don't see an armed guard at every school as being the answer. All a person has to do is what for a school bus to stop, enter, and then the massacre begins. No matter what, someone can think through the issues and kill children at will. Edit post...NOW, if communities want to ante up and pay for an armed guard/police officer with their own funds, GO FOR IT! I love the idea of a community well, being a community and support that 100%.
