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Now This is a Disgrace to the Flag

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by 130Woodman, Jun 18, 2014.

  1. michaellouderman

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    I Michael Louderman do solemnly swear to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic...............I swore this oath in Oct.1989 and it will be with me till they throw the dirt on top of me! Don t let all this politically correct garbage make you an enemy of the US or any thing else the government is trying to shove down our throats.This picture of a flag is a disgrace to any true American! Where are my fifty stars I served under for 8 years? I will not go down or give up without a fight!
     
  2. TwoBucks

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    I agree with michael. That flag is scary. Everyone in Germany thought Hitler was amazing at one point too.
     
  3. dukemichaels

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    A lot of contradiction in this statement.

    You swore an oath to the government and yet you are telling us not to listen to them?
     
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    Thanks, my wife and kids, family and friends and coworkers all think so as well.
     
  5. dukemichaels

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    A completely ridiculous statement.

    Some group of people demonstrating (their constitutional right) for what they believe and you cry for similarities to the lunatic hitler?

    Absurd. Go read a book.
     
  6. 130Woodman

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    Mike first off the Fox story could be taken as propaganda by the Republicans but the truth remains that Obama doesn't respect what the flag stands for or the people that died defending it. Who do you want me to quote THE ONION. It doesn't matter who's face you put on the flag it would still piss me off, there is no place for that IMO.
    You know I respect your opinion but to it's my right to get my panties in a bunch when I see something that is disrespectful , FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I already agreed Hooker was right and if this Podunk town democratic office came up with this on their own a cease and desist order should have came out right away from the Obama camp.
    Why should I move out of the country when they are the ones desecrating the flag? Enough of this political correctness B.S. call a spade a spade, will this change my life, will I loose sleep over it? No but I can express my opinion on an open forum just like you.

    As for our political system we both agree that the two party system just isn't working and has divided the country. There is no biased mainstream news organization left in this country but to satisfy here is the NBC link claiming the same thing.
    Obama stops wearing flag pin - politics - Decision '08 - Barack Obama News | NBC News
     
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  7. dmen

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    What is so absurd about it. Hitler had many fanatical followers just as this nut in the white house does.
     
  8. LittleChief

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    I don't know, duke,…. maybe they are. :)

    Every time I walk by a flag pole with our flag waving in the air I pause to look at it.

    Sometimes I feel sad when I think about what's happening to this country, but most of the time I feel pride.

    Sometimes I remember the pride I felt when my ship was moored in a foreign port, standing there in uniform saluting as the Star Spangled Banner played over the ships 1MC all loud and proud while our "stars and stripes" were were hoisted up during morning colors. Sometimes I remember morning colors on the base. I was one of those sailors who didn't "run for cover" to avoid saluting. I actually took pride in standing there rendering appropriate honors.

    I've always been very proud of this country, proud to have served and proud of that flag - the symbol of this great nation. It breaks my heart and at the same time fills me with rage to see someone desecrate it, be it by burning, walking on it or putting a man's face on it. It doesn't matter to me who made the thing. The idea that any real American would be willing to hoist that abomination up disturbs me because to me, and countless thousands of other like me, it's an insult. I can only imagine how "the greatest generation" would feel if they were alive to see what people do to our flag now.
     
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    I second this. Between our two party system and our media the country is split so wide we can't get anything done. Our government thinks we can go over to the middle east and solve all their problems and their 2000 years of fighting when they can't even stop fighting between themselves about the smallest domestic issues... It's honestly pathetic. Yes I'm against same sex marriage, legalizing marijuana, Gun control etc., but when they spend an entire year debating just one of these issues instead of how to fix our economy or pass a budget, or even fight the war is when I really have a problem with Government.
     
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    I swore an oath to protect the Constitution,they are going against it! Sorry for the confusion.
     
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    There is only one real American and his name is chuck.

    This flag has been around since 2012, it's pretty irrelevant IMO. I also think it's dumb.
     
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    id prefer you quote the onion.. Yes actually.

    the two party system doesn't work because of moronic news stories like "politician doesn't wear flag pin" or "group of demonstrators waves flag with another politicians face on it".

    The stupid people of this country react to these stories which is what influences and wins elections.

    What I'd like to see is less reaction to these ridiculous stories and people starting to look into the motivation behind why this story is being shoved down our throats. If they did.. Maybe we'd eventually get somewhere in politics again.

    I love you dan.
     
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    I agree that the media influences the elections too much, but you can't ban it either it would never work.
     
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    Nothing but love Mike....
     
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    Good. That makes a lot more sense. I was trying to figure out what you were saying...
     
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    Unfortunately, you also swore in that oath to "obey the orders of the President of the United States".
     
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    The sad things is that I bet there are some people who think The Onion is real....
     

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