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Discussion in 'Food Plots & Habitat Improvement' started by trvsmarine, Jul 28, 2013.

  1. trvsmarine

    trvsmarine Weekend Warrior

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    Alright thats also a pretty good answer. Now this "postemergent weed killer" ? Is this something special ? All i got is roundup, whats best place to get this stuff at ?

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    Mostly just online unless you have a co-op somewhere that you might check to see if they sell it but I would expect it to be marked up. I think the recommended use is 8 ounces per acre of the clethodim along with 1 quart per acre of crop oil. Prices vary but my buddy has purchased from both places using the directions listed above and his plots turn out nice. I don't plant brassicas but if I needed to ask someone about them he is the one. He's also the one who told me about mowing them back.

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    After looking at the pics, 2 things come to mind. They are planted a bit heavy, and they are hungry. I wouldn't disc them in just yet. I would add some 19-19-19 and possibly some urea. Even spraying a foliar fertilizer now may be an option, as your granular fertilizer needs a rain to work. I don't think its a failure, but if it does fail, just over seed it with rye and try again next year.
    Good luck, keep us posted.
     
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    trvsmarine Weekend Warrior

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    Im praying it doesnt fail. I busted my *** doing all my plots with a hand sprayer and then we had to dig a ton of rocks out while we were disking... so between all that and the hauling the equiptment and gas and money invested in these projects i will be hurting until next season!

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    Thanks for the info on those sprays spear. I will be ordering that stuff this week.

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    I have never tried spreading a fertilizer on after they are growing. I like the Idea of a foliar feed with a liquid fertilizer or spreading triple 19 on it. They grow fast so you have till around august 15 if you decide to replant. I believe the ones that are differn't colored appear to be purple top turnips. they can be really finiky to grow. If you decide to reseed it you could always go in spray round up, then spread around 300 pounds to the acre of 19-19-19 (what ever that works out to for your plot size, i.e. if it's 1/4 acre, you would need around 75 pounds of 19-19-19) Then broadcast the seed on. the brassicas there would die quick, fall on the seed and you would have reseeded, fertilized and done it all with little to know work involved. If you go that route, do it within a day or so of rain. the round up needs 30 minutes before a rain to absorb well.

    Also you could spread on the triple 19 now with it alive, see what they do, if they don't snap out of it, go in and replant it, the fertilizer would be there and it wouldn't be to difficult.

    Good luck, keep us updated!
     
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    also when I said 300 pounds to the acre I meant bag pounds. so 6 bags to the acre. this works out to around 57 pounds of each N,P,K to the acre. I have had great success with this formula. my brassica mix i put together ussually get just higher than my knee with softball size roots. like this.
     
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    trvsmarine Weekend Warrior

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    Agreed. I just got done emailing with frigid forage about the situation. They say the same deal, more fertilizer and some urea. I asked of they think I should till in under and start again and they said no. Get some product on there and i should still be able to come out with good plots. I guess I will do that either tues, wed, or thursday and then give it another week after that and check the status. At that time make a judgment on wether to kill it and just re seed.

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    glad you got it hopefully figured out.

    I wouldnt spray clethodim as I dont see that many grasses.

    I vote for the broadcast some 19-19-19 before a rain. If all else fails, broadcast some winter rye/little bit of brassicas by MID August or just broadcast some winter rye labor day weekend.

    Interested in how it looks Mid September.
     
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    pastorandrew= Once the brassicas hit a few inchs tall I broadcast some 19-19-19 ideally before a rain. I also use a Foliar Fertilizer(Antler King Jolt) to help out. The Foliar fertilizer isnt a "cure all" but cant hurt. It is a 9-17-8.

    Mowing- It can be done. I frost seeded into my clover 0724173704.jpg 0728174240.jpg some brassicas and they took two mowings. (seen in pictures)
     
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    I would go with a urea. I had some I planted in the spring a few years ago that turned like that, low nitrogen is what I was told. I do not plant bassicas in the spring anymore. I just planted yesterday for fall plots and I used 46-0-0 and 17-17-17. I did 150lbs of each yesterday for 3 acres and I will do 150lbs of each in a month, spread it out.

    I do a minimum of 200lbs of fert per acre.
     
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    I am wondering if you planted it to early. In general brassicas are a 45 day growing period to reach there max growth. The pictures you provided look great and nearly fully grown with exception to the bulbs. I live in West Central WI and used to plant in late June. My results were very similar to yours with the beginning of archery season having food plots that had already peaked out. Now I plant in mid July to early August and get my desired results. All I plant is Evolved Harvest Shot Plot or Antler King Honey Hole with each mixed with Milorganite at 1 part seed to 4 parts Milorganite. I have found this to be the perfect filler to get a even spread of brassicas or clover. You still have time to replant even though its a lot of work. Learning is a part of food plots every year.
     
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    dbl lung hit on a great point I didn't see mentioned before....brassicas and turnips are a cool season crop, they do not like hot weather. I use brassica, turnips, winter pea and radish as winter cover crops after grass crops like wheat, corn and grain sorghum to recover the extra nitrogen and salvage it from leaching out. They like cool weather and N and they also like some diversity, rye or wheat mixed in does fine and deer and turkey and quail all love it.

    The fertilizer mix they gave you was grossly wimpy, don't be afraid to use a healthy amount of fertilizer.
     

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