Four weeks ago I started on a new throw and mow plot experiment. Started with a little over an 1/8 acre area. Hasn't been touched in more than 30 years. After mowing I sprayed with gly and let sit for two weeks. Came back and pretty much had a 100% kill. Spread seed and fertilizer and took the mower back over it. Came back with the sprayer and chain drag same day with a light dose of gly. Looking forward to making the trip to the lease this weekend to see if I've had any growth. Pics of after seeding/dragging will be below and I will update with pics as the plot hopefully grows. Plot was planted with a mix of winter rye, oats, rape, PPT and clover Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Good luck bother. I like your seed mix and I think if it gets enough moisture you should be good to go. Out of curiosity what type of clover was in your mix?
Very curious what your results are as well. If I was to try something along these lines, personally, i would spread the seed in the green residue so that it makes it to the ground and then spray the field so that it lays ontop of the seed. I feel like you may have been fighting too much thatch by spreading your seed after it was already dead regardless of dragging it.
I just seeded the same type of plot on Saturday. I mowed and sprayed 10 days before. I mowed it with my Dixie Chopper. Saturday after .25" of rain I harrowed all the thatch off and sprayed it all again. Then I broadcast my seed and fertilizer. Did not harrow again after seeding. Saturday we got a 1" rain so that should've settled my seed in good. I put down yellow and white clover, rape,and turnips. 7lbs on 1/2 acre. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thanks! Received 2" rain week after planting. Clover was Medium Red and Jumbo Ladino Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
When I bush hogged the first time I pretty much just cut off the top half of the growth. I was surprised how little thatch that I had when I went back to seed. I'm thinking of extending the plot on the outer perimeter another 1/8-1/4 acre for a fall cereal only planting. If I do that I will seed/fert, mow then spray. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Took a ride to the lease today to check cams and to see how the plot is doing. Haven't received rain since last Friday's down pours. It's dried up pretty good this week since the plot takes on 8-9hrs of sunlight a day but I do have germination. Hoping for rain this week. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I just did this same thing a little over a week ago. This gives me hope! Haha Sent from my iPhone using Bowhunting.com Forums
I'd imagine you can figure on redoing it if this is all you got out of it. Planted around 8/8 with 2" of rain on it, you probably have about all you're going to get. You can leave it a bit longer to make sure but it's getting late. What I would have done differently: 1. Spray it standing 2. Seed it 24-48 hrs later 3. Mow it short over the seed 4. see what happens after a rain. The way you did it you had poor seed to soil contact plus you sprayed a layer of herbicide over your seed. (if I understood your order of operations correctly) At this point I'd probably elect to lightly work it up in a hurry, spread more seed on it and lightly disk it in. A tiller will also work. Maybe it came in and it's all good...I hope.
gly can prevent germination is sprayed germination if sprayed directly onto seed. To add to coveys post Sent from my iPhone using Bowhunting.com Forums
Decent growth but seems way behind. Going to spread more winter rye before the next predicted rain. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Covey with this process will the seed still get good germination if there isn't good seed to soil contact? Or will the dead thatch covering the seed after its mowed be enough to get the seed to germinate? This sounds like a great option for someone with no equipment to use.
The dead thatch will usually be enough but a word of caution, this only works well with small seeded food plot species and grass type crops. Clovers, turnips, radishes, forage brassica, rape, wheat, rye, oats, barley. Anything that is large seeded like peas, soybeans, etc...doesn't work very well at all. I have had some luck with buckwheat. You also need some rain but that kinda goes without saying. It's basically the same concept as what Grant Woods does with interseeding in standing soybeans at leaf drop. Those types of crops will grow in a truck bed with a little moisture. You basically just need a little cover to hold some moisture and keep the hot sun off the seedlings.
Sounds good. I'd like to try this with a clover, chicory mix in the spring and throw some rape and oats or something in the fall. What's your opinion on plantain added with the clover/chicory?
I've seeded plantain mixed with clover twice and never got anything but clover so that's the extent of my experience with it. I don't know if it was the seed or me or just odd circumstance.