I have a question about buy older bows that are still new and never been shot or hunted with compared to buying a new and improved bow. Is there really any benefit to spending more on a new bow with few inprovements over the older versions?
Depends on how good the improvments are. IMO you can save alot of money on a new last years model bow and most likely it's still a improvment on what you have and the bows are getting to the point where the improvments made year to year are pretty miner they are all great bows. IMO the 2012 bow are not a huge difference then the bows of 2011 or even 2010.
If your talking a new bow of the same model, example Matthews Z7, Elites Pulse, etc. It seems bow companies come out with a bow then for the next three years make it more shooter friendly and quieter, maybe shorter. Not a ton of new technology hitting the market that is changing bowhunting outside of possibly hoyts carbon bows although there have been carbon bows made for years just not by a big name company like Hoyt and its tubular carbon fiber not compressed. Time will tell it that's the future. You need to give some examples of bows your thinking of to get more feedback.
For Example. I have narrowed my list of Mfgs I like down to three that I have shot.I Like the Rampage XT by Hoyt but don't have the money so the I was looking at Alphamax 32 or Maxxis 31. Next I like the Bow Madness from PSE by don't have the money for a new 3G. And the last one is the the 2010 Diamond Black Ice. It's the only Diamond I shot that didn't have any vibration or hand shock afterwards. However, the only ones that I have not shotare Alphamax 32 and Maxxis 31 because I was told they were similar to shooting the new Rampage XT. I don't know how true that is though.So far I am favoring the Black Ice because of its solid wall and smooth draw but I have heard that they have had limb issues. Again I don't how true that is.
I would say the majority of the time you can save more money on a old model new bow than the price increase for the new model is worth. As for limb problems on the diamond I have not heard of any problems and seriously doubt that there are any.
I now shoot a Hoyt that is about 6 or 7 years old. It still seems new to me. My old bow was a Bear First Strike which was about 15 years old when I wore the cables out and they were no longer readily available. I'd still be shooting it if I hadn't worn it out. A well tuned, well aimed, properly broadhead tipped arrow will kill a deer every time... everything else is hype. Advice from an old guy; buy a new bow when you need a new bow, not because someone made a cool commercial.
Just my $.02, and it's probably not worth that, BUT.... I like the Black Ice and Alphamax very much. Of the two, and I've had one of each, I like the Alphamax just a little better, I like the Alphamax35 a good bit better, but the AM32, just slightly better. Either is a good option though, between the AM32 and the Black Ice. I didn't like the Maxxis nearly as well personally. That's just my opinion, of course, but it didn't feel quite as smooth, may have been a #2 vs. a #3 cam, not sure on that one. For the money, something produced in the last 2-3 yrs. is pretty much on level with the stuff produced this year for the most part. I like the new Hoyt CRX32 and CRX35's very much, but I couldn't see where they were any better or enough better to sell off my AM35 and buy one of them, if that's any consolation. Prior to 2012's, I shot nearly every bow on the market that I could get my hands on, and still ended up keeping my AM35's. If you're in the market for a used bow, those you mention are all good options, just make sure you get it from someone with a decent reputation ( check out archerytalk.com and the feedbacks guys have there ).
I just picked up my bro's newer Hoyt tonight and comparing the weight and length to my 'older' hoyt protec...there is no comparison...but shooting wise from in stand or at targets...speed difference isn't much...accuracy-thats in the shooter...noise a little difference....can I justify spending another 800-1000 bucks - No. It would be nice to carry for stillhunt/stalking but I'll make do until I'm to old and tired to carry my 'old' bow.
I also shoot the Protec... No convincing reason for me to change. New strings and cables every few years... no rollover adjustments ever. Have killed more than 20 deer with it.
Not for nothing, I usually buy a year old bow...either slightly used or discounted when the new years model comes out.... In what i saved over the years I bet I could dam near book a hunt.....
I have shot a lot of Hoyt and I like the way they shoot and they are forgiving with a smooth draw. So I am leaning toward them more because of the way they feel. Is there anything I should be cautious of or avoid with the older Hoyts? Any recommendations for sights or rests that work better on them?
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The older Hoyts are great bows. You want to make sure you have a new string and cable. That should be pretty much a non-negotiable unless you are getting it really cheaply. You're talking about a hundred bucks for that or more. A sight should be quiet, simple, solid and adjustable. Tru-glos are great for the price though some opt for more expensive setups. As far as rests go, just make sure it is also quiet, adjustable and solid. I just put a NAP Apache on mine and I like it pretty well. I had a whisker biscuit before and can't really tell much difference in my accuracy. It is quieter though, I think, and lets me shoot feathers. The important thing is to make sure the bow fits you (draw length, draw weight and axle length) and you are not buying something that doesn't fit based on price. If it doesn't fit, you will just get frustrated. Blessings.
Thanks Muzzy Man for that information. The first thing a m going to do is put new strings not matter what condition they say they are in. I was eyeing that NAP micro but I have not found it for a lefty so I might just go with a Ripcord Red. I do however like the Exteme Optics, I think that is what they are called, Micro 5-pin fiber optic sight but the price is a little steep. I think from all the reviews and reliablilty, dependability, and shootability of hoyt, boy that's a lot of bilites, I think I found my bow. I found a Hoyt Maxxis 31 for 425. It has a that ATA that is between the XS and standard 32-33" ATA which should be good for Blind and treestand or even ground hunting right? Should be a good buy I would think?
