The link on bowtech's website only had 26.5 for draw length. Since Bowtech has had bows like the Equalizer before I just figured it was along those lines. If its just a regular bow at those specs I have no interest in it. Besides the more I look at the more it screams PSE!!! Bowtech is blazing speed smooth as hell shooting and quiet as mouse farts. I have no interest in anything they do outside those parameters as they just blend into the crowd.
Agreed and the only company that I have seen that actually is really close to their quote IBO is hoyt. My D350 AT 29.5 at 72.5Lbs was shooting 331 with a 410g arrow. I switched to FMJ sitting at 476g and it was hitting 300-301fps which im more then happy with. Im willing to bet it will be in the 290-310 range as a hunting set up. Just a solid hunting bow
how about a MSRP? that is a big deciding factor for somone like me who doesnt have the cash to drop a grand into a bare bow. price combined with a smoth draw and just that comfort feeling is what i look for in a bow
Also if I'm not mistaken ibo ratings are also calculated with a lighter than normal arrow. 350 gram if I remember correctly. It wouldn't be a rating system if everyone picked their own length/weight/arrow. So my Craze with an ibo of I think, 306fps (as with all ibo, 30" 70lbs 350? Gram arrow) I take it in the real world, my 28inch draw and 52lbs shooting an arrow with a spine (broadhead+arrow 450-460ish grams ) then I add release loop, peep, string silencers etc to the string, which slows it down and robs me of energy. And suddenly your real world number is way lower than the overhyped speeds they claim. Even if you were shooting at 30inches and 70lbs you're still not gonna hit the rated speed because of the other factors.
Yes, IBO is taken as a 70 pound bow, 30 inch draw length, and 350 grain arrow. This is done to standardize the methods. What I'm not sure of is the testing method used (if they take X many bows and shoot them X many times and take the hightest, average... that I'm not sure) It wouldn't do a company any good to under rate their bow. However, they can't over rate too much or stand the chance of being called out. Therefore I'm willing to bet they shoot a number of bows a number of times and take the highest. This is probably done in factory form without a peep. Anything added will indeed slow the bow down. Again, I as most on this site will tell you, speed is not key. I think you'll find the companies are making the bows more user friendly rather than to make them faster. I'm not sure about all but it appears as though Mathews, Hoyt and Bowtech all took this approach. This makes it possible for people who wouldn't normally pull a 70 pound bow, pull a 70 pound bow. Also, a lot of states are really opening up crossbows which appeals to people who don't want to deal with the pain of drawing back. If you make the draw a lot easier, it may help to sway their opinion. Lastly, they're looking at accuracy. A lot of people buy a short brace height, super fast bow then can't shoot worth a crap. By extending the brace height, and making a better draw, the end user can practice better form and make a more accurate shot.
That's why I shoot 52lbs. It's more than enough to kill a deer. I can pull 70, but why? I can hold longer at 52, waiting on my shot window, and I can be more accurate when I get it. Practice is a lot more enjoyable and doesn't wear me out. I read anything over 7-7.5in brace height is good for beginning shooters
Spoken like a true Bowtech basher. I'm sure I'll get around to shooting it. I don't doubt for a moment that it will be a rock solid shooter and be very quiet. However, I seriously doubt this bow would better my current Destroyer 340. Kind of a let down year for Bowtech IMO. But, they've been shelling out some pretty radical bows the last few years and its to be expected. My hope is they addressed the finish issues this year.
Uhh... Huh? That made zero sense. I truly believe archery performance has plateaued. You not see anything of a significant improvement from anyone until something totally revolutionary is produced. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2
I'm beginning to wonder the same thing. I'm sure these companies can produce a 370fps bow without much issue, but at the expense of nasty draw cycles and shorter brace heights. It seems to me, you'll see a bump in speed for a while, then they all figure out how to make them more shootable and still maintain that speed. Then another bump in speed, then more shootability, etc. It goes in cycles.
Agreed. I do not think bows can get much, if any, faster with current technology, though. I think you will see a slow, but moving, curve in shootability/forgiveness now Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2
And there's nothing wrong with that imo. Id rather have a more shootable forgiving bow than speed at the sake of all else. Speed doesn't kill deer anyway. The bows they have now are lightyears ahead of the bows we had even 5yrs ago. I want to see someone build a handwarmer into their handle without strapping D cels to my riser.
I totally agree with you. Seems like a lot of manufactures have kinda ran out of major things to develop that is revolutionary. A lot of it seems like fine tuning and tweaking small things. I used to be a great Mathews fan but over the years I feel like their bows just became stale and almost repetitive. Not much Innovation. ( I know this is a Mathews site, sorry.) Although I will stick up for the Helium, as its a nice shooting hunting bow.
I really haven't seen many 7.5 inch brace height bows, but yes, a longer brace height is better for beginnners. If all your pulling is 52lbs, this may be a great bow for you. This bow is probably smooth enough, 65 pounds will feel like 52 lbs on a normal bow (not knocking your bow, not even sure what it is, just saying). I've seen it go as this: Newer archers: longer brace height, slightly slower, more forgiving Experienced archers: shorter brace height, more speed, less forgiving Old folks: easier to draw, slightly slower It looks like they hit the top and the bottom and left the insanity to us folks in the middle.
no they will advertise the bow at its fastest potential which would be at a 30" draw, it's one bad *** bow if it's shooting that fast at 26.5"
Shot it yesterday at my local shop. So quiet and so smooth that it was ridiculous. Of course not the fastest bow out there, but definitely is the quietest. You cant even hear it, it's amazing. I don't love the revolver silencers, but if they are the reason for the lack of noise, then it's something that I will get over very fast! It also seemed faster than the IBO states. Seems there are a lot of people disappointed, but what could we expect. Insanity is fast, Experience is smooth and quiet. Tough to have the best of both.
Really? Cams are similar to that of the Insanity CPX... no blow ups, no fouls, derail issues, Engineered perfection...You're basing your opinion on what, a photo? Go out and shoot one, it's fun. :-)
