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Need some opinions on arrow weight.

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by LittleChief, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. LittleChief

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    I'm currently shooting Gold Tip Pro Hunter 7595's cut to 28" with a 125 grain head. For some reason I've always labored under the delusion that these arrows weighed 500 plus grains, but according to the Gold Tip website they only weigh in at 450 grains (+/- a grain or two) with a FOC % of 12.41.

    I have a butt-load of Gold Tip weights in 50, 20 and 10 grain weights left over from setting up my trad arrows.

    What's your opinion of adding a 50 grain weight up front and switching to pin nock adapters/pin nocks in the back for a total weight of 500+ grains with a FOC % of 15.39?
     
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    I have done that very thing with some arrows I shoot out of a 60# bow. The total weight, 405, is less than the 500 you are after but the .400 spine is an overall lighter shaft. Anyway, I use a 50 grain insert so that gives me an additional 28 grains insert weight over the regular insert. I have a nock bushing and pin nocks, the FOC is right at 15% and that is witha 100 grain tip. I can also use a 125 grain tip by just turning the draw weight down some. You may have to turn your DW down a bit to get things to tune out but that arrow will still be unstoppable and very forgiving..
     
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    I'm trying to figure out how you came up with 450 grains? the 75/95 shafts are only 8.9 GPI, that would put you somewhere in the 415-420 grain range..

    If your only going to be shooting 20-30 yards max then I would add some weight up front, that extra FOC will certainly help. Your current setup, however, is more than adequate for deer.
     
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    I guess I should have mentioned that my 7595's are Hardwoods HD. They're 10.2 GPI. I also fletch with Onestringer wraps and cover them with double-dogs. That adds a few grains also.

    I know that what I'm shooting is adequate for whitetail hunting. Acually, it's probably adequate for just about anything in North America. I'm just a fan of slower, heavier arrows with a high FOC percentage. The main problem I forsee is having to re-sight everything in. I haven't had to touch my sight in three years.
     
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    What's up Bruce?

    I wouldn't think I'd have to turn my draw weight down to get them to tune. They're borderline overspined for my current setup now - at least according to the old Gold Tip chart that used to take arrow length into consideration. I know that my speed would be dropping considerably from my current 270 fps, but you nailed it when you said "unstoppable and very forgiving". That's exactly what I'm after. That, and a shot that's a bit more quiet.

    A few hours ago I put a 50 grain weight in two of my arrows and shot them along with two of my regular set up arrows at 20 yards and 40 yards. At 20 yards there was no significant change in the POI, but the two with the extra weight penetrated the new block target 1" further. At 40 yards though, the heavier arrows hit 5 inches lower. I can't imagine how I'd manage at our weekly shoots on 80 yard targets with the extra weight.
     
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    I'm shooting 29" Victory V-Forces with a 125-grain Muzzy steel-ferruled MX-3 screwed into a 50-grain Muzzy brass insert... feathers in the back and I'm really happy with my FOC. :)
     
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    Save me having to look it up and tell me what the FOC is and how much the total arrow weight is, Greg. :)
     
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    I thought of that exact thing after I posted, lol. I'm with you on the FOC thing, typically for my western hunts my arrows are set-up somewhat different. My arrows are finishing out at 416 grains with an FOC of about 12.5%. I think for my close treestands >20 yards I will be adding 3 GPI weight tubes.
     
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    You would force me to have to go look it up again.... why do you think I didn't include numbers in my first post? LOL!

    FOC of 15.91% at 486.1 grains. :)
     
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    I'm going with 19.5 % FOC this year , and with the invasion it helped me spread my pin gap out a bit , with that FOC it drops them right in there out to 70 yards , just like micky dee's " i'm lovin it " ..........lol
     

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