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  1. Bowhunter728

    Bowhunter728 Weekend Warrior

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    As the title says, i need some input on a new arrow. As of right now i have been looking at Carbon express Maxima red/blue arrows, Easton Arrows bloodline & bowfire, and recently checked out Beman bowhunter & whiteout.

    I like what all three have to offer but wanted to come here and see what everybody's input was on them.

    Im open to all suggestions of arrows at this point. There is a good chance that i will be going to the local archery shop tomorrow so i can put my hands on some more an test fire them.
     
  2. slickbilly-d

    slickbilly-d Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Ive never had any troubles with Gold Tip Hunter Xt’s. I have one I shot two deer with last year and I’d be shooting more with it this year had I not bumped up to anstiffer spine and heavier point weight.
     
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    Western MA Hunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I shot Beman ICS hunters for years. They were a great value. I recently switched to Easton Axis to mix it up a bit. Just to try something different. They seem to fly very well.
     
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    I shoot Black Eagles now, but I loved my Carbon Express Blu Streaks. They were very accurate arrows.
     
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    Whitetail Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Hunting?
    Target?
    Heavy?
    Light?
    Made in USA?


    For me:
    Hunting
    Heavy
    Made in USA!!

    Axis with 50 or 75gr insert is my choice.
     
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    TheHardWoods913 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    ^^^THIS!

    I shoot Gold Tip Kinetics in a 300 spine right now with a 65gr insert and 100gr head, no issues what so ever and they pack a heck of a punch! Been shooting this set up for 3 years now with no issues, but I am really considering switching to Easton Full Metal Jacket Injexion's with their 55gr half-out titanium insert.
     
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    NebMo Hunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    i have some blu rzs, they are fine, no complaints at all, as set up they are 435 gr
    i also have Easton axis' that are about 505 gr

    have killed deer with both, shoot good groups with both
     
  8. cantexian

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    I am shooting Black Eagle Renegades and Outlaws this year. The Renegades are my first experience using an outsert system. I like it a lot better than the HIT inserts I had on the Easton Axis I used to shoot.
    300 Spine cut to 27.5 inches. Renegades weigh in at 470 grains, Outlaws at 445 grains.
     
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    Curious what you like about the outsert better than the HIT system?

    I've been shooting Black Eagle Rampages the last few years with great success. 350 spine, 28" arrow with 50 grain brass HIT insert up front, 100 grain head, NAP Quikfletch and a Lumenok X nock bring total finished weight to 440 grains. I've been very happy with the performance of this arrow. They fly great and have passed through every deer I've shot with them using both small fixed heads as well as large 2" mechanicals. I love that 425-450 grain sweet spot for finished arrow weight. IMO it's a great blend of speed and weight.
     
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    My complaint with the HIT system on the Axis arrows is that I felt it weakened the the arrow on the front end. I had arrows that would chip or splinter shooting them into bag targets with field points. Maybe I got unlucky with a bunch of bad arrows, but I ended up discarding 7 of the 12 arrows I had because I didn't think they were safe to shoot. They flew great but lacked durability. Having an outsert or even just a standard insert that comes out a little on the front end seems to have relieved this. Although, I switched to Black Eagle from Easton for 3D and this upcoming hunting season. So far, I am much more impressed with the BEA arrows both for durability and shootability. I feel I shoot both the Outlaws and the Renegades better than the more expensive Easton Axis.
     
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    Go with a small diameter, since I've switched i'll never go back.
     
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    I've shot Carbon Express for years. Currently, I have been shooting the Maxima Reds for the last 2-3 years without issues and they are accurate and hold up well. The same is true for the Maxima Hunters (red). Heck, I still have some old Carbon Express Eliminators from about ten years ago that I use as my "Iron Buck/Turkey" arrows thinking one day I'll miss and destroy them instead of my reds. Have two left that seem to stick around...

    That being said, once I go through the arrows I have, I'll probably go with small diameter Carbon Express or Easton FMJ. I shoot Carbon Ones in my Olympic recurve and prefer the smaller diameter.
     
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    Agreed. I see no reason to bowhunt for big game animals with anything but a small diameter arrow these days. Far too many advantages to not use them.
     
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    Depends what you consider small. 204 and 6mm yea i say the postives out way the negatives because they have reliable insert systems. Go down to .166 id shafts and there are plenty of reasons not use them, out serts and half out systems suck.
     
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    Bowhunter728 Weekend Warrior

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    Ya I am definitely gonna go with a smaller diameter arrow, I just didn’t know which’s ones. Also I am going to be hunting with these arrows so I need to check the charts on the manufacture to see what they recommend for weight against my length and draw LBS.

    I’m gonna go to the local shop tomorrow and see if I can get my hands on some of them and fire them.

    I just wanted input on arrows everyone uses and possibly try different ones out outside of what I am looking at and have.
     
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    I agree with this as well. I consider the .204-.205 shafts small diameter and anything under that a "micro" diameter. I'm not sold on those yet - too many component issues and limitations for me. The Axis/Rampage/Kinetic size arrows are perfect in my opinion.
     
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    I agree with the sweet spot at 70 lbs I use Easton Hexx first the GPI grains per inch then the diameter the lower GPI the better foc you can build into your setup I use a 5o gr insert and end up at 420 total arrow flys and hits great
     
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    Here’s a vote for Carbon Express. I shot several different labels of theirs from Maxima’s to Blue Streaks to Reds to Blu Zones and even Mayhem’s. No problems at all.

    I’d say however, Easton ACC and FMJ are hard hitting son of a guns. ACC to me priced themselves out of practicality for shooting an animal. Cost went insane.


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    I gotta say stay away from CX Maximas. Most brittle arrow I ever shot. Every animal I shot with one snapped at either the front or back end of the "flex" zone. Even inside the animal. Not more accurate than Victory Vforce for 3x the price; and not half as tough. Not shot any other CX and I've heard good things about the others so I imagine they're fine.

    If money wasn't a factor I'd be an FMJ guy without a doubt.
     
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    What size 4, 5, or 6 for the FMJ??
     

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