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Discussion in 'Food Plots & Habitat Improvement' started by Creeks, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. boonerville

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    Make sure the "BOB" mix is a different variety than the ag mix.
     
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    It will most likely be a mixture. I haven't decided yet. I really like my LC brassica mix. I may strip that plot in two with half of it that (PTT, GHFR, and DER) and some brassica bag mix (I'm guessing it will different varieties).

    I'm rotating in clover this year on the other half that was brassica's this past year. I had good results with WI Imperial, and for the small area that I'll test plant in, the price won't matter. I can get pretty much any major variety of clover from my Ag to plant against it.

    Any good documentation on what deer formulated seed mixes do that makes them superior to ag seeds? Like apples to apples (Ladino in a bag mix vs Ladino bought from an ag center)?
     
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    That's just it. Ladino from an ag store is the same as ladino in a bag mix. What I'm talking about is planting ag store ladino (or whatever else) next to some imperial whitetail (insight clover/ Alex berseem) or some Biologic trophy clover...and then document the results
     
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    That's what I was wondering. I was misinterpreting what everyone kept saying regarding formulation of seeds specific for deer vs. ag seeds. I know many bag mixes (not all...again not trying to lump them all together) that are nothing more than common varieties you can buy in Ag stores.

    I'm definitely interested to see the results, though. Any specific brands anyone here would like to see tested?
     
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    Where are you finding these deals?
     
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    Fall rye is a staple as a cover crop. It builds a lot of organic matter. Nutritionally speaking , the following grains ranks this way in nutrition:

    Tritcale
    Forage type winter wheat
    oats
    barley
    fall rye

    In the spring the downside of fall rye is it goes from great to "straw" in 7-10 days. The winter triticale and winter wheats tend to mature about 2 weeks later, giving you a more duration to peak nutrition.

    Most grasses like perennial ryegrass, timothy, fescue, orchardgrass, and bromegrass are very unpalatable to deer. The exceptions being high sugar perennial ryegrass. There are many reasons for this. Manages intentive grassing or cutting grass forages on a 25-35 day interval helps with quality. In a deer plot, diseases, sugar contents, lignin levels etc etc make it undesirable.

    I have some pictures i'll be happy to share with people on my fall/winter grains trial. The triticale will stay greenest latest and is the prefer choice over, buck forage oats, bob oats, everleaf oats, forage plus oats, fall rye and winter wheat.
     

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