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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Backcountry, Dec 10, 2013.

  1. FEB

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    That changes things! With your meter, do you have 120 volts when you put 1 lead to the hot and the other to ground? If so, then you know it's a neutral problem.
    I'm thinking you have a loose splice somewhere either on the hot or neutral (happened to me recently, and I made it:)). Unfortunately, it could be at the light (bed or bath), in the switches or an outlet. It would help if you can determine where the circuit starts.
    Since you have power at the GFI, I would start in the bathroom, at the switch and fan/light.

    Edit: And a light should not work without a neutral.
     
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  2. dprsdhunter

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    Your light switch can still work and what your light switch controls can as well
    if wires continuing on from the switch is off/broke ..........not the wire going to what switch controls
    It could be worth checking out
     
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    I'm a contractor. And this may sound stupid. But star with the basics. First step for me would be check all breakers. Not just visually. Turn every one off and them on. Sorry bout your clocks. Do you have a sub panel with more breakers. Do those if applies. Is there a strange switch in the house you don't know what for it does. Sometimes people wire switches wrong affecting the whole circuit. Or a passing circuit in the same box.
     
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    Can you trace your wires out and find out how the circuit is ran? If other things are working off the breaker that runs that circuit then that rules out the breaker I would think, and the wire coming from the breaker box at least till its first point. So something is wrong in the series. You're gonna have to trace it out from point to point, testing at each junction. Till you know exactly how the circuit is ran your just guessing. Are they ran in the attic or under the house where you have access to trace everything out?
     
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    I also wouldn't rule out a hidden junction box somewhere. Attic or basement/crawlspace access? Might be worth checking out.
     
  6. Backcountry

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    I'll get down Into the crawl space and do some looking tomorrow. I'm not sure of they rain the wires down or up. The house was built in 2010 sob would assume everything would be layer out better than most. I've been wrong before.

    Thanks for the help everyone
     
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    Did you ever figure out this issue?
     
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    Late to the party, but I second Finch's suggestion on a hidden junction box. They may have tapped power off the outlet for another run elsewhere in the house. How far away is the outlet with the wires coming out of it from the main panel?
     
  9. kennyg

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    It still could be feeding thru. You have to check phase to phase where the wires go into the main breaker from the meter. I see it all the time.

     
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    This is only if he has all electric appliances. If they are gas, that this is not correct, except for well pump.

     
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    My guess would be its were the wires connect to an outlet. Wires generally dont break in the middle of the run. Most times a problem occurs were there is a connection. Also, usually when they wire houses, there isnt a different breaker for each room.. Alot of the time, the lights from room to room are fed from a different breaker than the outlets. This is why the lights may be working in the same room were the outlets are not.
     
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    Is your house fed from the basement up or the attic down to switches and receptacles?

    Go to the first bad outlet and pull the recept. From the wall. Turn circuit off first. Get the recept. In a safe place outside the box then turn the circuit back on. Test the wires not the recept.

    If no power, trace wires to their junction box and test there. Repeat until you find the open.
    BE CAREFUL WHEN WORKING ON LIVE CIRCUITS. Not recommended for non electricians.

    If you have power at the wires of a recept. But not the recept. Replace the recept.

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