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NBA Finals Predictions

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by TEmbry, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. Vito

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    True champion? What does that mean? He's a false champion? One thing is for sure with LeBron, nothing will ever be good enough.

    You can't control who drafts you. If its to a sucky team with sucky ownership, why wouldn't you leave? Would you stay at a company you hate? Cleveland should be thankful he stayed as long as he did. They were actually relevant for a minute.
     
  2. Vito

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    Is John Elway a fake champion? Shaq? Kevin Garnett? Jason Kidd? Wilt? Should I go on?
     
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    All fake champions sorry....:bash:
     
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    I never said he was a fake, you make stuff up and then run with it like it is fact. The Cleveland Cavaliers finished first in the East one year, made the finals another year and had zero championships to show for it,so to say they were always a crappy team when he was there is just not true. If they were good enough to win 61 games in a season, they should have been good enough to win a championship. The way he left Cleveland,(which has been covered ad naseum here) was a disgrace and that will be what I remember hiim for.
     
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    Remember him for what you want, just know that you're missing out on enjoying one of the best players to play. Ever.

    And you're wrong about everything that happened with Cleveland. He had every right to leave. He should have left. He was a cash cow for Dan Gilbert and that was it. They made no moves for them to get better. He would had stayed there just like KG did in Minnesota, and wasted his career. He won 66 games in Cleveland because he was a beast. No other reason. Other teams had players (role players) that stepped up during the playoffs.

    Can you tell me who was the second best player in Cleveland?
     
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    I am tired about hearing about "The Decision" also. The same people that bash LeBron for being arrogant and announcing his intentions on television would ***** if he didnt do it, saying he is selfish, he could have raised over $1,000,000 for kids! I dont get how an athlete that works hard, wins, raises $ for charities, hasnt gotten into trouble for drinking, drugs, cheating, abusing women or children can be villainized when there are so many athletes that do far worse to disgrace themselves, their teams, and their fans!
     
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    Best post in this thread. 100% spot on.
     
  8. NY Bowhunter

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    And now the Miami heat finished 1st in the east one year and WON a championship the next year.

    I crack up at people with the whole Lebron leaving Cleveland. You have a chance to take your talents to south beach. Play with D wade and chris bosch under pat reilly system. Living in miami and by the way a boatload of money. A legit chance to win mulitple championships knowing you're not going to be playing this game forever. Now is your time. Somebody can sit there and say he shouldn't have left Cleveland? HUH?
     
  9. Vito

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    Then please explain what type of champion someone is if they are not a "true champion". I always thought if something wasn't true, it was false. But I went to college so I am not very smart.

    What was Cleveland's record after LeBron left? You don't have to look it up, they were 19-63 with basically the same team from a year before that won 61 games. Wait, they didn't have LeBron. So they lose one guy and they go from the league's best record to the league's worst. As my dear friend would say, hmmmmm.
     
  10. Vito

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    Wait a minute...are you saying you wouldn't stay at a crappy company in a crappy city, when you can work for a good company in nice city and make more money? I can't believe how selfish you are! I now hate you.
     
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    If I'm not mistaken LBJ, Wade, Bosh and a few others are making less money contract wise with the Heat. Not that I really care. LBJ was a machine the whole post season. Up till this year I thought he was a pussy.
     
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    lmao. Perfect timing. hmmmmmmmmmm

    Rumors of Ray Allen joining forces with the Heat. While i don't think it would be a guaranteed next 2 or 3 championships (true). What an addition that would be. Jump shooting threat added to the trio? Yikes.
     
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    The thought of such an idiotic move is absurd and sickens me.
     
  14. Vito

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    We saw what happened when the Heat can knockdown open 3s in the finals (Battier, Miller, Jones, Cole). Adding Ray Allen would make things very interesting. I know health has been an issue for him, but he wouldn't have to run throw 49285738495 screens to get open. He could just spot up. I'm not sure how many good years he has left, but they wondered that 3 years ago. I think he would definitely help.

    Plus I would laugh at Celtic fans.
     
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    I agree, dishing out to a wide open Ray Allen for the 3 ball is kind of scary for the league. Would've been really interesting (and probably unbeatable) if they landed Tyson Chandler like they were talking about last year. But they're doing ok for themselves with what they have.
     
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    Yeah, Chandler was/is a good center for Miami. Someone who doesn't need the ball, but plays great defense and rebounds well. He is decent in the pick and roll going to the basket as well. If they find a center that can defend well and pick and pop...look out.
     

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