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NAP Killzone - Kills em fast, but bad trails

Discussion in 'Equipment Reviews' started by longbowmanjimmy, May 13, 2014.

  1. longbowmanjimmy

    longbowmanjimmy Weekend Warrior

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    There is lots of positive feedback on these broadheads on this sight, but I had to put in my .02. These things killed deer faster than any broad head I've ever used and also had the worst blood trails I've ever had to work with, I had one spot of blood for 50 yards with the buck. Both were double lung shots, pass through, out of a 30' tall pine tree double stand setup, so my entries had to be high were high- AND they opened horizontally, which very well have played a role? Not saying these heads are junk, I'm just saying I'm going to see if they make a good 3 blade. Oh, and the holes were massive. Easily 2"
     

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  2. BJE80

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    Double lunged 2" hole and one drop of blood?

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  3. OK/Sooner

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    This is the yuka plant that my mule deer was standing in front of when my arrow connected.

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    This was a clean pass heart shot. Ive never seen a better blood trail that what I had that day. Killzones open up a massive hole. I'll definitely be using them again this year.

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  4. rknierim

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    Entry and exit holes are both high. If you were 30 feet up in a pine, that deer must have been about 80 yards out or so. Looks more like you shot it from a blind on the ground. Either way, your lack of blood trail is from both holes being high up on the body. The body cavity had to fill with blood before it would start coming out those holes.
     
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    I killed 3 deer with the Killzones last season, and I wasn't too impressed with the blood trails. All three were shot basically midway up the body, and died within 100 yards. I just chalked it up to hitting them slightly high, and I just have s*** luck when it comes to blood trails. They were enough to follow most of the time, but sections were on hands and knees
     
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    How does one hit both lungs up 30' in a tree? I need to aim for that spot more often.
     
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    It looked like someone had painted the forest floor red after my killzone dropped a buck...So I have no qualms about the blood trails.
     
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    TheHardWoods913 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I agree with the above...shots looks high to me. Bloods trails both my killzones and kilzones maxx's have made have been devastating!!!! EVERY time!

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  9. Justin

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    Blood trails are funny things. I've had massive trails left behind from 1 1/8" cut fixed blade heads and sparse trails on 2" expendables, both with similar placement on entrance/exit. IMO it has less to do with the broadhead itself than it does with the particular deer you shoot and exactly what it hits as it's passing through. Also the deer's reaction after the shot (how quick and how far it runs) as well as what it's running through. Some stuff just doesn't show blood well.

    I would venture to say every broadhead made has been responsible for both very good as well as very poor blood trails at one time or another.

    With that said, I've been very happy with my Killzone blood trails.
     
  10. Rick James

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    I've killed probably 15 deer with Rage's and 4 now with the Killzones. They have both performed very similarly for me when I added a band to the Rage to prevent premature opening.

    Out of those roughly 20 deer, pretty much every one had ridiculous blood trails and the most gruesome holes I've ever seen on a deer. I agree with what Justin said, there are times when a deer just doesn't leave great blood trails for unexplained reasons but over the course of the many deer I've shot with these two very similar heads I've seen the exact opposite. I've also had a handful of deer that really weren't hit all that well that went down pretty quickly and bled like a stuck pig with these heads.

    Edit - After reading the original post, at that angle did you get a exit hole? If not and you only had a large hole up top from entrance no broadhead is going to produce a great blood trail. Usually when you gut those deer though it's like the elevator scene in The Shining when you first open them up.
     
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    Saved me a ton of typing. Couldn't agree more...

    I've had Rage trails look like a Texas chainsaw massacre and had other double lung hits without a spec of blood found until the dead deer.
     
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    JZ hit it right on the head! Blood trails can be head scratchers some time. I shot a doe at 15 yards, broadside, a tad high in the rib cage with a complete pass thru and just got one drop of blood. I was using an expandable broadhead with 2+ inch cut. She was dead within 100 yards. I saw which way she ran, but it puzzled me how my arrow could be soaked in blood and no blood trail. It happens!
     
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    Both bucks we shot last year with Killzones had massive blood trails. The buck I shot was spraying blood. The other buck only made it 15 yards before he was on "E".
     
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    Yeah, I'm with Justin, Depends a lot on the deer IMO. I had some nasty blood trails with Muzzy mx3's. Then other shots, not much at all. I use Swhackers 95% of the time...have had gruesome blood trails on all but one. She only went 30 yards bud didn't bleed on the ground at all while she ran. Killzone's are great heads I think.
     
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    I agree that they are unusual... I smoked a coyote with a double lung/heart shot, 2" hole from my Rage, and you think a coyote of all critters would bleed alot... Nope, was very spotty for all 10yards the coyote ran before rolling.
     
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    I've only shot two deer with my killzones but both had the best blood trails of any deer I've ever shot....by far.
     
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    My doe two years ago had a very similar shot placement. Granted I use Rage 2" 2 blade which are essentially the same things, but I had zero blood until about 20 feet from where she lay. 2" hole on both sides after the pass through and killed her in 70 yards. I don't blame the broadhead and I don't think you should either. High placement leaves plenty of inner body cavity to catch the blood, and it's not like hitting lungs is exactly arterial bleeding either. Good kill btw!
     
  18. longbowmanjimmy

    longbowmanjimmy Weekend Warrior

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    Thats funny because I didn't think i posted a picture of the exit wounds. Heres the doe. Trust me when I say it was a 30' stand, they put 2 ladders together on a double stand.
     

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    THanks Kris_H_97, Yeah I hear you brother I just think if the exit is low and its a 2" passthrough there would at least some kind of trail, 2 identical shots almost and both deer had awful trails. The doe was running and hers was at least a few spots, but the buck was walking after I shot and there was literally one spot of blood between the shot and here he dropped.
     
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    I would have to agree with most everyone else. It happens sometimes and it doesn't mean the broad head is to blame. You very well could shoot another one with the Killzone and it leave a red carpet of blood. Many things come into play before the broad head can be blamed. They look like great shoots to me, I would think you should have had great blood. Sometimes they just don't bleed, don't know why, they just don't.
     

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