My thought on Zimmerman/ Martin

The interview of this 13 yr old kid is just too much to even watch but if I find it I will post it.....

Witness to Trayvon Martin Shooting, 13, Still Hears Screams

"That investigator said flat out that we don't think it was self-defense," Brown said, recalling the day the police came to interview Austin. "Several times he said, 'I have kids, and I'm going to tell you something that I don't tell many people.' He looked at me and said, 'You have to read between the lines. There's some stereotyping going on.' "

She continued: "He stood here in my family room telling me that this guy [Zimmerman] is not right and it wasn't self-defense and that they have to prove that it wasn't. He was adamant about that. I don't know if that was to make me less uncomfortable or to make us feel that he was on our side."

Meanwhile, other witnesses are now saying that the police tried to twist their testimony to support Zimmerman's claims of self-defense.

Austin McLendon hasn't been the same since the night of Feb. 26, when he was standing approximately 20 feet from the shooting. He says he didn't see a lot, but his mother says that the young boy can't get the screams of "help" -- or the sound of the gunshot -- out of his head.

He also can't stop from asking himself what he could have done to change the sequence of events. "I picture myself back over where I saw it, and it sticks in the back of my mind," McLendon said at his family's home.

According to police, George Zimmerman, the self-appointed caption of the neighborhood watch at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, has admitted to shooting and killing Martin, whom he described as "suspicious" in a 911 call. Zimmerman, who claimed that he was acting in self-defense, was carrying a licensed pistol.

"They still haven't arrested him yet," Austin said to HuffPost Black Voices. "That's pretty much the main thing that's upsetting me."

Austin's mother, Sheryl Brown, said that her son's trauma from that night also involves media and police versions of Austin's story. The police claim that Austin told them Zimmerman was the one screaming. Although Austin couldn't tell exactly who it was, he believes that it was Martin. Brown also told HuffPost that she believes the police investigator who interviewed her son may have been trying to get Austin to provide information that he didn't have.

 

I read it carefully.........and quoted your EXACT words. You clearly have a racial axe to grind.

I'm sure that's part of the problem..........who else were you taught never to trust??

The irony of that quote is priceless.........who held you back from grammar class?

Cry me a river..........I lived in St Pete for a year and a big reason why we left is my wife was the only white nurse on her floor and the black women there treated her like **** and called her every name in the book.

Some people move on with their lives and some use stuff like that as an eternal crutch.

Don't say racist things then.

How many of your examples in the original post specifically pointed out the actions of "white" people??

Yes..........but to pretend that is the only "what if" in this situation is self serving at best.

Would he still be alive had he not punched Zimmerman and smashed his head against the street??

Would he still be alive if he wasn't a known pot head, vandal, and probable thief??

Would he still be alive if he simply said "Just heading home from the store"??

You are horribly ignorant of the details of this situation...........and the law. Neither of those things happened.

 

Its called a citizens arrest. In some states off you are a witness to a crime and do nothing you can be charged

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With all due respect my friend. You seem to be making a judgment without knowing what really happened. That's called prejudice. If a black man had not been arrested for having shot an unarmed white teenager, would you be defending him? The police are doing their jobs to the best of their abilities and are trying to piece together the evidence, the eye witness reports and the 911 calls. People adding inflamatory comments to the situation are not helping.

 

What crime did he witness?

 

Rare moment but I am in total agreement with Atlas. The racism in this post is sickening. Guy messes with a black man and holds his hand on his knife, its because he is white. 5 black guys rape and mutilate a young white couple, its because they are animals. lol

Leave race out of this...Zimmerman probably shouldn't have followed him. But Trayvon should have just said I'm walking home from the store...if someone approached me at night and asked what I was doing I would say that, I wouldn't bash their skull into the pavement for asking.... (see how easy it is to skew the "facts" of the case into a slant that fits your prerogative?)

 

I was'nt commenting on wether or not he was right I was simply stating that anyone can make a citizens arrest with do cause.
prime example is myself: I used to do armed security on movie sets in the chicago area. on the set of a movie called soul food a stalker approached one of the actress's threating her and I detanded him until the police got there to arrest him. If I did not have just cause that would have been false imprisonment but since he was a known and documented stalker of this actress and she asked for help I was in the clear.
other than that I am staying out of all of this crap I have bigger things to worry about like my own family and making sure that they are safe and happy.

 

If someone approach me and ask me were I'm going it's none of their business plan and simple. If you stop me and try to detain me it's false imprisonment.

Touch "me" and try to detain me I'm kicking your azz!

If you got your hand on a large bowie style knife as I reiterate calling me N-Bomb this and you're just like the any other N-bomb. Then you're a racists bigot looking for a fight. When other people standing around you smiling and giggling at your actions finding it cute. Until you realize I'm armed with a fire arm about to draw it because you proceeded to unsheathe it what does that make you and what does that make ?

answer that if you would please?

If a White Couple is approached by 5 Black people and they attempt to harm you my feelings are the same as if the Couple Was Black and the reverse happen. I pray that they are armed to defend themselves and if they die I wouldn't give a rats azz.

Since the White couple was murdered by these 5 Black People as I said why haven't they executed these effing animals! What's the hold up! I'm for a swift and electrifying execution! These effing mutts are guilty and they should have been long since hung for 1st degree murder.

But what's going to happen some politician is going to feel sorry for them and let them out were they will get the chance to do it again....They act like animals and they should be put down like a rabid animal. If they attacked this couple no matter if race played a part of it or not they can't spread their racist way if they are dead.

So a swift execution is in order.

Your actions speaks for themselves and what you say and do in correlation to your actions speaks of you as the person as you are.

So I'm I racists not in the lest. Do I have deal with racism? Everyday...The gym I go to I was informed earlier today people have been complaining I play loud Gangster Rap music when I go there at night. 11PM

LOL!

I listen to Graphic Audio Books 99% of the time when I'm in my car and listen to loud Jazz when I'm home.

 

So why as you said stir the pot then run from the kitchen? Not calling you a racist just don't start something you can't finish.

And Zimmerman didn't have the right to stop him period as you said the stalker had reports on him for doing so were was the ones on Trayvon?? By your statement he was justified in stopping him because of his race.

Here's the video of Zimmerman I'm sure you've seen it already....Care to point out his injuries? And don't say the video is of poor quality. Because People have been identified and sent to death row and prison for the rest of their life on video far worse than this.

 

Yes the police office did wipe his hands on his pants. But still were are the rubber gloves? And I've boxed for a while and mixed it up practicing Karate. But I've also been nailed in the face with a kick and a punch and never had my nose broken but I'd bled like a butchered pig.

From an experience stand point a bloody nose runs down over your chest. I've seen hunting videos and worked in a hospital in Jacksonville Florida and seen people come in shot and I'm no expert but there is an awful amount of blood gushes out from an high velocity round hitting someone in the chest and if you hit the heart that's like opening a fire hydrant.

We've seen deer hit with arrows and rifle bullets the principal is the same. Blood will gush out of the wound and he said Trayvon was on top of him when he shot him with his 9mm pistol. Any high velocity round at close range will cause him a lot of damage..

I'm no scientists but we are hunters.

 

I'm not making an opinion on way or another in this case, but the surveillance videos don't show anything. They're too poor of quality. Now, where are the pictures of his injuries? I'm sure some were taken. When will they be released?

 

Forgive me if this has already been answered. But, does anyone know when this video whas shot? Any chance that Zimmerman had a chance to clean up and get a change of clothes? What do you speculate that the officer is wiping off his hand? Why do you think the officer obvioulsy looks at the back of Zimmerman's head? And, yes, the video is actually not of good enough quality to be able to see even if there was a fairly large gash in the back of his head. It just isnt. I really dont care either way, just playing devils advocate here, as I would hope would be done for me or one of my sons if we were in this situation.

 

Since there have not been any charges filed, Zimmerman's attorney does not have the ability to request any of the evidence that the police would have in their posession. If, and likely when charges are filed, he will have the opportunity for discovery. If they have their own pictures, they really have no reason to use them at this point, because they dont need to defend charges that have not been levied.

 

I should have made it clear that they were kind of rhetorical questions. Sorry about that. My point was that someone wants to call him guilty because of a ****ty video that you can't see clearly on. We all know there is better evidence coming, but what's the fun in waiting for that?

 

It's pretty clear he was not pummeled, so I guess now we will go with it was a struggle for a gun theory

 

Or we could just take him out back and shoot him since he is so clearly guilty An yes he had already been cleaned up by EMS and from those reports came his recorder injuries. But the EMS personnel and police probably made those injuries up because they didn't like Skittles. The gun "theory" you want to dismiss is and has been Zimmermans defense since the questioning at the scene and when he gave his written statement at the station.

http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-shooter-told-cops-teenager-went-gun-030349812--abc-news.html

 

Bottom line, neither party was likely innocent in this "struggle". Zimmerman may not have needed to follow Trayvon, but if the gf's reports are correct Trayvon shouldn't have followed Zimmerman back towards his truck to start a physical altercation (regardless if he got one punch in or beat him within an inch of death). I'm sure Zimmerman is exaggerating the fight just as Im sure Trayvon was far from the little black kid skipping home whistling eating skittles. I wouldn't be surprised by an innocent or manslaughter charge, but would be SHOCKED by a murder charge based on all the reports out currently.

It's just more fun for people to skew it far to either side for debates sake I guess.



Amateur, I'm not attempting to convince you that your posts here exhibit your racism. It's a futile debate. Agree to disagree. You choose to view the world based on skin color, others choose to view actions based on individual people.

As Atlas pointed out about his wife, I live in Birmingham AL now and have dozens of examples of black people being racist/hostile towards me. Do I generalize all black people based on these idiots actions? No....but I don't like walking around with chips on my shoulders, they tend to weigh me down.

 

Germ, I am not ready to make that assumption. It's really hard to say just how badly he may or may not have been "pummeled". Plenty of people have died from injuries that were less than obvious. It does appear that there is some type of injury to the back of his head. To me, if I can see it on that crappy of a video, it may actually be a fairy substantial gash. Also, the broken nose would not be apparent at all in the video. As for the blood, who knows? Did he clean up? Again, we have no idea. Therefore, we really cant make an informed opinion on this.

 

Unlike you and other people, I'm not ready to hang him yet. I'm not ready to exonerate him either. Again, I'll hold judgement until everything comes out.

Someone said it best, I'm not so sure I would want to be judged by a group of my peers after reading the comments on both "sides" of this.

You kids have fun and continue to keep it clean. Its great not having to moderate these kinds of threads that could get really ugly.

 

Changing the clothes of a shooting suspect that's being taken in for questioning would be tampering with evidence. Hence you can't change clothes.

If he shot Trayvon while he was on top of him. Blood would have gushed out on Zimmerman. Where's the blood from Trayvon?

3rd where's the police rubber gloves for handling bloody objects or to protect themselves from HIV?

No Blood.