My thought on Zimmerman/ Martin

What?

 

This is the hardest thing for people to understand. Unless you live it, or see it first hand, its nearly impossible for people to put themselves in that situation.

 

Yes it does it's clear that Zimmerman have racist tendencies. Eff-ing Coons? 75 phone calls on Blacks in one year? Really!?

I known plenty of people to be bigoted fools. And those same ideals lead to their basic ideals of people that would make them do something under normal circumstances they wouldn't if the person was of their race.

And that's the sad part.

Once when I was on a Car lot in Florida getting ready to test drive an Infinity G20 a White Female was there to looking at a J30. This scruffy dressed White dude walked up on the lot. Looked around and asked me was the Woman with me and asked him why?

I went to her told her that the guy was inquiring about her and she told me to mind my own damn business Darky. I walked away from her and went toward the service desk. When the salesman returned we heard screaming the White guy had pushed her down and took off with her purse.

After the police arrive under 5 minutes they searched the area for an hour didn't see him. I relayed the story to the police and the woman asked why didn't I do something.

I reminded her you told me to mind my own business. So no matter what I've could have done, unarmed and chasing a crook isn't smart at all. Officer Greggs told her it wasn't nothing I could do. And she still blamed me for her purse being taken.

Imagine that. When stupid ideology like this is in ones mind be it any race you loose.

 

yeah, I get that.

What I don't get is how these stories of yours are relevant to the case between Trayvon and Zimmerman. I could write several stories about how I've been verbally assaulted by blacks, but I'm not, because it is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

 

Hook, I think what Amateur is trying to show is why Martin reacted the way he did when approached by an aggressive non black man, because he has been treated unfairly for the same reasons.

I don't doubt you have stories of racism and bigotry. Its just different. Its different because of the history of the races and what each race has to fight for. It just is...fair or not.

 

Well in that regard, I could site that there had already been 8 burglaries in Zimmerman's neighborhood this year. Perhaps that is why Zimmerman reacted the way he did at the site of a young, hooded, black male.

Just sayin'

 

So racial profiling is okay if there have been some burglaries? And murder is justifiable too? And we can assume those burglaries were committed by young, hooded, black males, correct?

 

I'm not condoning what Zimmerman did, just stating that perhaps that could be a reason why he reacted the way he did. I have no idea of the ethnicity of the burglars in his neighborhood.

I'm quite certain Zimmerman is a bigot and an *******.

 

Stir the pot??? When I read about this story it sickened me. I just wish the victims was armed to kill those rabid mutts! And since they weren't and the murderers are in prison.

Why haven't they been executed? What's the hold up on justice? You haven't stirred the pot at all. You just raised the question we all are asking....

Where's the justice?

Someone of any race harms my child and I'm going to F@#$ You up and that's a promise!

 

And he was also 2 blocks from where he lives. So how far was the store from where Trayvon was going in relationship to were Zimmerman was?

And if Zimmerman was 2 blocks away from his home then what was he doing outside in the rain patrolling other neighborhoods and not his own?

To me he was stalking people. Blacks in particular because of his perception of us. And where's the video of Trayvon in the 7/11?

 

I don't know about you, but I consider 2 blocks away to be in my neighborhood.

And I don't think anyone is arguing that Zimmerman was not racial profiling, and how he just assumed Trayvon to be up to no good was justified.

People are questioning the media coverage, the police, and whether Zimmerman should be charged with murder, or was he acting in self defense.

 

The 911 tape have Trayvon Screaming for help before the shot. Sanford Police said Zimmerman was screaming for help after the shot.. Where's his screams for help after the shot.

What the some media outlet is trying to do is paint a case for self defense. it's just not there and if I grabbed a gun and screamed for help. I trying to draw attention to my plight.

The first time someone pointed a gun at me I damn near pissed on myself. Wrestling with someone with a gun at 17 hell no I'm running!

Point a gun at me at my age now I'm running. Had Trayvon been a trouble making kid as I've seen many Florida Teens of all races. i would say you are in a lot trouble when you come against them.

Honor roll, skiing, football and had strong interest in General Aviation? The kid was a Nerd and nerds don't fight they run.

 

The most recent report that I read states that Trayvon confronted Zimmerman while Zimmerman was walking back to his truck. Trayvon gave Zimmerman the slip, then followed him back to his truck. If this is true, then at this point, Trayvon becomes the aggressor.

 

That is Zimmerman's account, as he is the only eye witness. Martin's girlfriend was on the phone with him when Zimmerman got out of his truck and began to follow him. She heard Zimmerman's voice and then some shoving before the call ended. Would Martin have stayed on the phone with his girlfriend while doubling back and then confronting Zimmerman? Probably not, which means someone is lying.

Zimmerman is the only eye witness in this case. He is also the suspect, and most likely to lie to protect himself. I'm not saying he is lying, but when have we ever been shocked that suspect lied to try and prove innocence?

Recently, Martin has been painted as a bad kid, fair or not. However, he has not had any issues of violence that we know of. At least not yet. Zimmerman on the other hand, has some red flags. History of paranoia, violence, and racial profiling.

With all that said, I can't get past the fact that Zimmerman was instructed to not follow the "suspect". Had he listened to the 911 dispatcher, this would have been chalked up as another paranoid call by Zimmerman concerning a black male.

 

Trayvon's g/f also said that Trayvon said that he had lost Zimmerman and was hiding. Per the 911 call, Zimmerman had given up looking for Trayvon, and was headed back to his truck. Now whether or not Zimmerman found Trayvon afterwards, or Trayvon confronted Zimmerman, we do not know.

Also, haven't other eye witnesses claimed to have seen Trayvon smashing Zimmerman's head into the concrete? Or have those been discredited?

 

Pretty much sums up my viewpoint the entire issue, because, frankly, we can all debate what may or may not have happened after this point, but we DO know Zimmerman was told to stand down. He's stands down...this never happens. End of story.

 

To my knowledge, I don't think anyone saw the fight first hand. At least not anyone that has come forward. With the injuries Zimmerman had, I see no reason to believe his head didn't hit the cement. How it happened I'm not certain anyone knows for sure besides Zimmerman.

The only thing we do know for sure is Zimmerman shot and killed Martin, and Zimmerman had a chance to retreat. Not only did he not retreat, he left his vehicle in pursuit.

 

THAT kind of statement gets so old Matt, really really old.

 

Because its been true for a long, long time.

 

Sure has, I've been victim to it many times over my life.