Rage's biggest selling point is that it "flys like your field point". So now, when an unaware bowhunter has his fixed blade BH's impacting 6 inches from his field points at 20 yds he can just slap on a rage BH and it will "fly like his FP". The real problem with that is, the bow is seriously out of tune with the arrow and has even less energy than it should due to the poor energy transfer. The bowhunter has just covered up a huge problem with the rage bandaid and actually made the problem worse because now he needs even more KE. Rage BH's aren't any more accurate than a fixed blade they just are able to replicate crappy arrow flight from a poorly tuned setup. Unfortunately they also replicate crappy energy transfer and crappy KE which apparently, from reading many of these threads, leads to crappy penetration. Every time I see these rage threads the pro rage posts never mention needing proper KE, never mention having a well tuned setup and never mention arrow weight or FOC (of which, IMO, rage needs more of than a COC). I don't wonder why, though.
Why can't we all just get along and love each other. Hahahaha jk. But seriously if you do not adjust your rest when tunning broadheads you won't ever be able to shoot a tight pattern. If you need help setting your bow up to shoot BH better pm me and I will help you its so easy
I tried the Rage heads. Made a big hole but the two deer I shot with them, I didn't get a pass thru. I can't recall the last non pass thru shot with my G5's. My bow is set at 70 lbs. They are my go to blade for turkeys though. If Rick says he sent it thru the boiler room than that's what happened. COC head for me.
Another "perfect" shot goes unrewarded because of broadhead failure.. LOL Anyone with Rage broadhed issues send them to me for further testing. I'll be glad to try'em out in real life and give you feed-back. I have a preference for Rages because they have not failed me and do what is advertised. I don't dis other brands for the sake of it, but I'm sure everyone has had an issue with one broad head or another at some point. For instance.... Oh Yeah??? My G5 montec broke, hitting my block target on shot #1
I love a good Rage thread, now we need a camo thread Rage is a good BH, but it's not full proof. No BH is full proof IMO there are to many varibles in a shot we cannot control. So I believe I need to control as much about a shot as I can. With a fixed COC head I can control it not opening
wasnt the first shot but it did and i still dont know what or how it happened yes i was disappointed but still matter has it that it prolly wouldnt have broke in a deer and ive accepted that that $hit just happens in bow hunting u use a gun and "you" knock the scope off i never blame the scope i blame myself that stuff just happens in the sport so sharpen it and use it or go buy a new one...(went and bought more montecs)
Wow, this thread is still going ? It's already been concluded that shot placement is more important that what marketing campaign lured you into what product. The guy made a less than stellar shot..It's not the broad heads fault. Practice more or something
Exactly, even if ALL a COC head does is eliminate the chance of the blades not opening or opening in flight, that is enough. Why take chances. I've said it many times, there must be a pretty good reason so many outfitters and some states dont allow mechanicals.?? I know of a local outfitter that will not allow Rages in his camp because of the number of lost animals shot with them. He cant control his clients bow set-ups, but he can eliminate one variable. Why love them until they fail when you can tune a bow to shoot COC's.
thought i made a perfect shot on a doe with a montec...-shrug- never found her. sometimes there are just other factors workin.
If you have more than an ample amount of energy why limit yourself to a smaller hole with a COC head? IF you have plenty of energy built into your setup, why wouldn't you want to shoot a head that will inflict the most damage and make a bigger hole?
I think it's silly to blame the BH. I've completely severed shoulder bones with Rages. I've had a quartering towards high angle shot not bleed a drop, exit hole through stomach was plugged and the high lung entry never filled up the chest cavity enough to start bleeding. I've double lunged deer. I've shot a deer quartering away that literally left entire entrails and guts along the bloodroad (not doing it justice to call it a trail). They aren't the answer for everyone, but they are a damned fine head. I've had very short trackjobs with every kill. I think blaming the head is as silly as blaming pencils for misspelled words.
Because its not necessary. So why risk the problems inherent with Rage's? Dead is dead. And, because that is a big "IF" that many bowhunters dont understand. All they know is that the advertisment leads them to believe that any hit with a Rage is fatal. Then, they are disappointed. Ever heard of an outfitter that recommends a large expandable head for anything other than turkeys?