Please ensure Javascript is enabled for purposes of website accessibility

Muzzy got it right.

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Sota, Sep 16, 2017.

  1. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    23,729
    Dislikes Received:
    132
    Location:
    Minnesota
    I went to Cabelas the other day to get my arrows and broad heads. I was very happy to see that Muzzy got it right and has the hybrid in 125 grain this season. I was going to have the bowshop put 25 grain inserts in the piledrivers but now no need. I know it probably does not make a huge difference but I feel more comfortable with 475 grain arrows rather than 450 grain arrows.
     
    Cablebob likes this.
  2. alenhard15

    alenhard15 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2015
    Posts:
    5,358
    Likes Received:
    19,179
    Dislikes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Lancaster PA
    Love the trocar hybrids, shot a doe with them last weekend and she went 40 yards


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  3. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    23,729
    Dislikes Received:
    132
    Location:
    Minnesota
    I believe they are one of the best mechanicals on the market, no blade retention clips or o rings, pretty much impossible to fail to open.
     
  4. early in

    early in Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2008
    Posts:
    7,138
    Likes Received:
    6,999
    Dislikes Received:
    104
    Location:
    Southeastern, Pa
    Muzzy got it right a long time ago.
     
  5. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    23,729
    Dislikes Received:
    132
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Yes and no, last year the head was available in only 100 grain, while not wrong not ideal either, heck I wish they made it in 150 grain.
     
  6. bucksnbears

    bucksnbears Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2014
    Posts:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    11,914
    Dislikes Received:
    44
    Yep!
    Was actually disappointed seeing them come out with a mechanical head
     
  7. alenhard15

    alenhard15 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2015
    Posts:
    5,358
    Likes Received:
    19,179
    Dislikes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Lancaster PA
    You shouldn't be it's incredible!!!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  8. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    23,729
    Dislikes Received:
    132
    Location:
    Minnesota
    I simply do not get the disappointment that a company would make a mechanical broad head, unless you actually believe the stories where a hunter blames the head for a bad shot, or a setup that does not favor a mechanical.
     
  9. S.McArthur

    S.McArthur Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2013
    Posts:
    2,857
    Likes Received:
    8,754
    Dislikes Received:
    10
    Location:
    Greenbrier, Tn
    Trying the Trocar HB this season, on target, it is dead nuts on even at 40 yards. Can't wait to see what it will do to hide/bone. I loved the MX-3, but wanted to try something else. I used Shwackers last year and although they are good, I hit some bone and they did not expand. So a hybrid with fixed blades seems like a winner to me for those "just in case" scenarios.
    Two turkeys I've killed with the MX-3 and it was deadly each time. I'm a big fan of muzzy. Maybe I'll step up to the 125gr if the 100gr leaves me needing more, but I doubt it, they are bad to the bone..........(I'll take my $5 for the plug)
     
  10. bucksnbears

    bucksnbears Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2014
    Posts:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    11,914
    Dislikes Received:
    44
    Cuz there is n
    If you love the mx3, why change??

    Guess what, you ain't gonna find better!!
    Only gonna spend more money on a gimmick:whip:
    And dammit... your on my team:bow:
     
  11. bucksnbears

    bucksnbears Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2014
    Posts:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    11,914
    Dislikes Received:
    44
    I hate what mech heads have done to bowhunting.
    Seen failure after failure with them.
    Not too hard to figger out
     
  12. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    23,729
    Dislikes Received:
    132
    Location:
    Minnesota
    No not hard to figure out use a heavy arrow and they work well. I have shot mechanicals into targets with 1 blade open and every combination and they heads go straight and they open if you do it right.
     
  13. JGD

    JGD Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2011
    Posts:
    2,554
    Likes Received:
    617
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    North Texas
    I shot a buck at 40 yds with the old school 100 gr. four blade a few nights ago. It zipped right through. I'm also using 75 gr inserts.
     
    virginiashadow likes this.
  14. Cablebob

    Cablebob Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2011
    Posts:
    2,300
    Likes Received:
    353
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Iowa
    The rear deploying mechanical was amazing when G5 had the Teken? 4 balde. The Muzzy HB is just like that only better and in a 125gr that G5 seemed to stop making (couldn't find them anywhere).

    What mechanical broadheads have done to bowhunting is undeniable. It's both good and equally as bad. Many people are not tuning their bows properly because they believe that every mechanical "flies like a field tip" out of the box. Many people put mechanical heads on setups that do not produce the proper amount of KE and therefore only get an entry and no exit. This can lead to unrecovered deer and many people blaming the head. In a way it's partially the marketing that causes such issues.

    However, If used properly from a correctly tuned bow, mechanical heads are devastating and I believe lead to many ethical and quick kills, that may have been marginal with a fixed blade. Broadhead tune and make sure you have enough KE to get the job done and there is nothing wrong with using a mechanical.
     
    JGD likes this.
  15. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    23,729
    Dislikes Received:
    132
    Location:
    Minnesota
    I have never heard somebody tell me the reason they shoot mechanicals is because of ease of tuning. If we are blaming the mechanicals then the need for speed and the use of the lightest arrow possible is at fault as well.
     
  16. Cablebob

    Cablebob Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2011
    Posts:
    2,300
    Likes Received:
    353
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Iowa
    Easy tuning? Try no broadhead tuning. You do realize there are people out there that buy a 3 pack of rage (or any mech) and just screw them on and go hunting right? No spin test, no practice shots into target. Many people do this or have done this.

    My opinion is, the "flies like a field tip" marketing is why they got so popular. I shoot mechanicals, I have for 13 years, So I am obviously Pro mechanical. But the reason there is so much hate for them is because of lazy hunters. Just my honest opinion.
     
  17. JGD

    JGD Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2011
    Posts:
    2,554
    Likes Received:
    617
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    North Texas
    I was talking to a guide last week who told me it is very common for their clients to show up in camp with broadheads in the package and have never shot them out of their set up. The "shoots like a fielt point" is their reasoning and they don't want to waste a broadhead on a target if they don't come with a practice head.
     
  18. Sota

    Sota Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Posts:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    23,729
    Dislikes Received:
    132
    Location:
    Minnesota
    I can not relate to that kind of ignorance, would never consider not shooting before hunting.
     
    JGD likes this.
  19. JGD

    JGD Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2011
    Posts:
    2,554
    Likes Received:
    617
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    North Texas
    I agree.
     
  20. TKP030

    TKP030 Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    May 12, 2015
    Posts:
    575
    Likes Received:
    147
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    North Dakota
    For people who don't tune and just unscrew a field point and put on a broad head on, I hope they choose mechanicals. They might not fly just like a field tip but it's going to be closer than a broad head with the added wind resistance.


    Sent from my iPhone using Bowhunting.com Forums
     

Share This Page