Moreso than any other election, people seem to voting against the other candidate

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  1. Swampthing

    Swampthing Weekend Warrior

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    Rand Paul I could get on board with, and I was hoping he'd win the Republican nomination. But Trey Gowdy?! C'mon dude! This is the guy that altered documents during the Benghazi investigation. How is that any different that what Hilary did?
     
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    I will admit, Gowdy has a hatred for the Democratic left...which I disagree with. He did redact a document...he admitted he did so, and I'm actually shocked he didn't have anything done due to it. I guess I'll just say I respect his hard work ethic, but one would have to question the motives of it.
     
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    This is exactly why it's so important for republicans in swing states to not waste their vote for Johnson. We're already at a disadvantage numerically with state delegates, this is the only and best hope for evening out that problem. If Republicans do the same thing, that is exactly why they may as well vote for Hillary because they are giving up that chance to even the odds.

    But by all means, if those folks want to basically give Hillary the oval office then they can live with that responsibility as american hating and irresponsible citizens with "morals". I hope they can sleep at night knowing they gave it to Hillary.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
  5. Spear

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    We all seem to want majority of the same thing but it's not attainable and we are essentially divided 50%/50% on how to get there. Depressing.
     
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    BS, we all want to kill big bucks and agree a bow is the preferred way to get there!!! (just don't bring up broadheads or bow manufacturers)
     
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    The sad part is it's all just smoke and mirrors.

    It's not so much left vs right, democrats or republicans. It's us vs them. Tax payers or politician.

    It's all about getting more of our money.

    We need a flat tax and caps on the percentage of our income they can take. If the government want to raise the amount of of money they take in, help us make more.


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  8. Hooker

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    People should not be maligned for not voting for Trump.
     
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    We are all too comfortable in our lives to get along with each other. I don't have to rely on my neighbor, or brother so if I don't like something, screw them. This is the kind of mentality that top down government breeds. What can the federal govt do for me? Then the state... then the county... Then what do I need to do to fill the gaps.

    We as humans are meant to be in community. I should take care of myself and my family to the best of my ability. If I truly need something, my extended family and neighbors should be there. Then the city... county... State... Fed. Ground up forces us to be civil and kind to one another.

    Govt was designed to protect, not control. We have this all backwards now....
     
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    I could never stand when people say a vote for so and so is a wasted vote. We are supposed to vote for who we believe to be the best candidate. I will never accuse someone of wasting there vote. It is there vote to cast how they see fit. For me this election I will more than likely vote for Trump, who I personally feel is an ***. But the other option is a non starter for me. I voted for Perot twice in my younger days, mainly because I felt like I was voting against the system.
     
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    Haha, you know what I meant. We all seem to be fairly libertarian leaning, small government, self sufficient, community type people but just have different views on voting to achieve that. Unfortunately I think both sides are wrong with our approach, and I include myself in that. The president is merely one person, we should be focused on local and state elections and work our way up. I think there WAS movement to do that after Obama won his first term but it became a fringe and they couldn't even agree with themselves and therefore didn't support each other. What we need is a party that supports a balanced budget, stopping foreign aid, no playing favorites with business, reinvent the tax system, less federal government/more state involvement and HELP each other get elected. Leave the hot topic stuff at the door and let each locale/state vote accordingly. I don't care if that means a 3rd party, a revitalized Republican party, whatever (Democrats are too far gone in my opinion). Just implement the Constitution and that's it.
     
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    You are right on with everything man! Glad to see someone with common sense
     
  13. Hooker

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    The people who should lose sleep at night are the people that voted for Trump in the primaries.

    Hillary is one of the weakest candidates in a long time, this should have been a cake walk for the GOP, but nope, they had to go and elect one of the most unelectable people of all time for their candidate just so they could "stick it to the establishment".

    Good job.
     
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    Biden would have beaten President Trump.

    Sanders would have been better than hc. I just hope electing Trump does not back fire against us somehow in the future. He is the best choice, but who the hell knows what will happen when he gets in.
     
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    I disagree, they should be if Hillary wins by a narrow margin in those swing states.
     
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    Pitiful in the US when a candidate has socialist in his platform is considered a candidate, then again he may just be a brutaly honest democrat.
     
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    I disagree but we'll see how it turns out if he gets elected. There were no candidates that didn't have serious issues. The R establishment wanted the rinos like Bush or Rubio or Kasich, Cruz turned out to be a lying pos and dirtier than nearly all of them. Both parties establishments hated Trump so that instantly gave him more credibility than the others, combined with his way of telling it like it is and spirit of nationalism...it's really no wonder he won by a large margin. So I'd be careful about disrespecting the will of the majority of the voters because you disagree with their pick.

    Obama was a more unelectable candidate than Hillary if you look at their respective resume's pre-election.
     
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    First time I voted was in 1984, everybody was concerned about Cowboy Ronny. Hell The Iranians let the hostages go when he took office. Hell he bombed Libia. Reagan made it proud to be an American once again. Trump could be the same way except he does not have the class or dignity of Reagan. Reagan could at least fall back on acting the part. I will admit I would love to see Trump address the United Nations or visit Putin just like the upcoming debates it will be interesting TV.
     
  19. Hooker

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    :lol: good luck with that
     
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    The one thing I am optimistic about Trump is the fact that he's not a politician. Whether you like his platform or not, voting for Trump is sticking it to the republican party just like voting for Gary Johnson is, regardless of how different Trump's platform is from Gary Johnson. I agree he is a complete question mark, but at least he's not a McCain or Romney. If he ends up winning and being half decent, great, if he doesn't win or ends up being crap, then it's the same as having Hillary anyway. Either way, the republicans are hearing the message loud and clear.
     

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