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More American problems. (Spending)

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Ben/PA, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. Ben/PA

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    Saw this video sometime ago. I'm not as smart as alot of you guys, but tell me what I should take out of it.

    www.endofamerica15.com
     
  2. GMMAT

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    Interesting.

    Has anyone requested the other materials?

    I'm guessing the referenced No. 1 asset is a bowtech bow. And, that's a DOOZY of an anticipation ad!

    (Calm down...I'm kidding)
     
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    What a load of dribble. I can't believe I just wasted 45 minutes listening to this crap.It all leads up to him "giving" you a book on buying gold "free of charge". I can't believe I fell for this sales pitch. The whole thing was stinking of something all the way through anyway, full of vague examples and half truths. Don't waste your time with this. It's all a sales pitch for gold and silver.
     
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    The only problem with that way of thinking is......I can buy gold and silver from MANY places (and cut him out).

    There's (IMO) a lot of truths in that PSA. When you really stop and think about how bad it could get, it's scary. Can you imagine having......and trying to protect what you have?

    I can't imagine it being that bad. But, it's scary.

    I watched a movie recently, called 'The Road'. It's a grim, post-apocalyptic insight. People walk by monetary goods (cash; jewels; etc...). They're no good to a hungry man. Food is gold (in that scenario). Shelter is silver. Clothes; shoes; etc... are sacred commodities.

    Hope it doesn't come to that. But, I do store more food than I used to.
     
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    Only took a few moments to find this and more.

    another link: http://briandeer.com/vaxgen/stansberry-fraud.htm

    http://greenlaserreviews.com/2010/12/03/stansberry-review/

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    I knew it was a sales pitch for something. Admittedly, I closed it out when he started on that stuff. It's the info before it that startles me a bit if even SOME of it is true or accurate.
     
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    IMO, it is. Can't imagine what exactly will "fix" the path our country is on (no I'm not turning this political as both sides are historically guilty) financially.
     
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    One thing he cited as being proof that we were "done for"....is when he said ....even if we were to take each US citizens' paychecks at 100%, we wouldn't have enough to pay off the debt.

    Well damn, Einstein.....if you added up a LOT of husband/wife's salaries....they wouldn't have enough to pay off their debt, either. Thank God the banks recognize something called "terms".

    Right now, we (US) still have (at least) the reputation that we can make good on our debts. As long as this holds true, the dollar will be the foundation of international currency.
     
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    He lost me when he said we are on the verge of not being able to make our interest payments. I know our payments are high but we are nowhere near defaulting. He also left out some important considerations - first, that much of our debt is in treasury bonds. Meaning that the holders of these bonds need the US dollar to remain strong in order for these bonds to be worth anything. Secondly, countries exporting to the US need their currency to be valued less than the US in order to keep the prices of their products low. China is a prime example of a country artificially keeping their currency low in order to continue to export to the US. If their currency were even close to the value of the US dollar, all their exports would just be crap instead of cheap crap.

    Also, gold right now is artificially inflated. It's feeding on fears on the economy - people are buying gold because they don't trust anything else. It makes them feel better that they are buying a physical object (or they think they are), this video plays that like a fiddle. The problem is once the economy starts to become strong again - gold will likely come down significantly as people will start to sell off.
     

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