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  1. jmbuckhunter

    jmbuckhunter Grizzled Veteran

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    I can't stand anything that has to do with politics. But does anybody really like this guy? I won't vote for either choice right now. Comon independents, this may be your year!
     
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    Unfortunately John, there isn't a statesman amongst anyone running for office right now, just politicians. Haven't seen a good candidate in many years myself. I personally look at it as voting for the lesser of two evils right now.
     
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    I can't stand him....you could say that all politicians are fake to some degree but Romney takes the cake...I don't believe anything the guy says

    His solution to the college debt problem was that everyone should just borrow like 20k from their parents? How out of touch with regular middle class people is this guy???
     
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    I have had 3.5 years to interview Obama for the job he hopes to be rehired for. I’ve paid very close attention and weighed and measured his words and his actions and I cannot re-hire him. I plan on firing him in November. Since under the current system there are really only 2 viable choices, I am leaning towards hiring Romney for the job for 4 years and then I will reevaluate his performance before extending his employment.

    I tend to look at the man and his words and actions and his vision for the future before I make my choice and I dont find any redeeming or endearing qualities in Obama and his lackluster performance (off the golf course) means I have to send him packing. In the mean time I am learning more about Romney and have until November to make my choice.
     
  5. Shoobee

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    The Independents are always the ones who elect every president. That is probably a good thing, becaues the Reeps are always going to vote Reep no matter what, and the Demos are always going to vote Demo, no matter what. So a "true democracy" is going to consist of voters like the Indies, as I call them.

    Mitt has the lowest popularity ratings of anyone since Nixxon. Reason being he is dry, he is uninspiring, he seems insincere, he is rich but he pays very little tax, and he flip flops on every major issue.

    So, Indies, if you are going to vote for a candidate like that then I will be disappointed in you.

    Rather than Mitt, you have a clear alternative in someone who is already experienced at the Federal level, who is a great speaker, who looks good, who is very popular not only in the USA but world wide, and don't forget, Obama got Osama.

    :D
     
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    Crabtree I don't know if you could do the job better than Mitt, but I would sooner vote for you than for Mitt.

    Mitt has no experience at the Federal level (same as you), he flip flops on everything which makes him a liar (you and Obama both at least tell the truth), Mitt pays very little taxes (you pay more proportionally), Mitt clips coupons for a living (you at least work for a living), and so forth.

    It should be an interesting election. It could still go either way. It will all depend on whether the Indies drink the Reep koolaid or stay the course to recovery.

    You see, neither party can do anything about the economy, other than build a few new roads and bridges. And that wont change much if anything. But the Reeps are counting on the big lie that they are pushing, that they can. It is a huge lie, but that is their election strategy, to promise the impossible and hope they can fool all of the people some of the time, this time.

    If you are Reep and you always vote Reep, then your views are no surprise. You don't have any. You are just a rubber stamp. You did not say if you were a registered Reep or not.
     
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    I would not care for the pay cut so I am not running.

    We dont have to register in WI but since you ask. I am a social conservative and a fiscal libertarian. I vote the man, not the party.

    I am absolutely certain this nation deserves better representation from its leader than what we got from Obama. He is a great disappointment and not at all a leader. He is a failure of a president.

    There is a term for guys like Obama, but only one term. :o
     
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    I don't know how to break this to you Shoo, but BOTH parties lie. Obama made over 500 campaign promises, and some changed depending on what group of people he was talking to. BOTH parties base their campaigns on logical fallacies. Recently, the Democrats stated that the tax giving Americans a tax rebate would jump start the economy. Did it? On the other hand, the Republicans kept on with giving businesses a tax break would jump start the economy by getting more people working. If you give big business a tax break, the stockholders want bigger dividends, so more than likely no one gets hired. Also, if you hire more, you have to be able to sell your product. With the economy in the crapper, that won't work.

    I am an independent voter.
     
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    Right on RC.....3.5 Years later is not the time for him to start trying to "Change" things...The "Hope" has been gone...Not saying Mitt will be any better but I would rather give him the next 4 years to try.......
     
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    There is a Libertarian party too, and they always have a candidate on the ballot. Usually this is some very idealistic person who believes in tax cuts, no social safety nets, no deficits of any kind, and balanced budgets. Why aren't you voting for them?

    Right about now, due to the Wall Street induced Great Recession, lots of people are hopelessly unemployed, and dependent on federally backed unemployment. At the moment that is a safety net that keeps them out of soup kitchens and off the streets.

    You sound partisan to me, and strongly anti-Demo. Sorry, no offense, but I have to call them like I see them.

    The Libertarian political philosophy works for towns, cities, and counties, but not for states nor for the federal level. It is simply a fallacy.
     
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    Right on right on rah rah rah.

    Lets all cheerlead for our own sides.

    Rah rah ree, kick em in the knee.
    Rah rah rass, kick em in the other knee.
     
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    Do not really care for either, but i will vote for the American.
     
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    So the last time around each side (Demos and Reeps) promised a lie, that they could each fix the economy, an impossible task. And now you are blaming Obama because both sides lied? That's really smart huh?

    So now the other party should get a chance with their same lie? That's really smart huh?

    Youre forgetting which party brought us this mess by allowing it to happen through their continuous attempts a deregulation of insured financial segments (too big to fail). The Reeps have brought you deregulation of S&Ls and banking and now Wall Street and look what happened when they had to turn around and bail these failed megabusinesses out. And that's what you want more of? That's really smart huh?

    It really sounds more like you are a Reep koolaid salesman yourself.
     
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    I don't particularly like romney either, but I will NOT vote for the dope. Did'nt vote for him the first time, wont in November. This country is not a Socialist country, but this a-hole is trying to make it one.
     
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    If Mexico is what you mean by American, then rah rah rah.
     
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    California is a good place for you.
     
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    I already stated that there currently exists only two viable choices. I recall voting for Ross Perrot but ended up getting another guy. I have not decided who to vote for yet but its with great certainty that I can say that Obama is such a complete failure and ill prepared that I will not rehire him for the job. He has been weighed, he has been measured and he has been found wanting. He was a huge disappointment and I will go so far as to say embarrassment to the USA.

    You mistakenly hope to apply blame for the situation and conditions in America where is does not belong. Jobs, the economy, The national debt, the misery level, etc rest on the shoulders of the POTUS. He failed this country but got in a lot of rounds of golf.

    I don’t agree with you so you hope to label me so you can wrap your head around what I am saying. By calling me a partisan you hope to label me thus trying to make it look like you are not a partisan. Thus far, that is exactly what you have been. I am in the middle and weighing my options and the candidates. I too call them like I see them. You are a blind Obama supporter who will overlook his many many many shortcomings. You will ignore his negative effects on this country and not even consider another option. We gave Obama a chance and he failed miserably. He ought not get another chance when there are different choices.
     
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    See what you have started? Things are pretty emotional on the Reep side because they lost last time around.

    But they lost last time around because some speech writer wrote McCain's lines "the fundamentals of the economy are sound" and that made him look like a moron 2 weeks later when it all crashed. Which he is, when it comes to macroeconomics. He even admits econ is not his strength.

    There is still plenty of time for the new RNC candidate to make the same mistake. His $10,000 bet was a close call. The Reep guy is out of touch. They usually are. But you cannot be poor to run for office. No one has been this out of touch in a long time though.

    So the question becomes, will it be for out of touch or more of the same?

    If the DNC can paint a picture of staying the course like the RNC did for Reagan the second time around (when he was mostly sleeping during office and Nancy was using her horoscope), then that would serve as a successful platform again this time around. History always repeats itself.

    The two men (the rich man and the poor man with money) are just starting to square off now. They will have a few debates too.

    I cannot imagine the Reep looking very good against an experienced opponent. But everybody will get to see.
     
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    Dude, I state some facts and you made it personal???? Really? You have got to be one of those Californians on that "medicinal marijuana" and self medicating a tad too much.
    1. Where did I say it was Obama's fault? I said both parties lie by using logical fallacies.
    2. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley bill was signed by Clinton. Which party is he affiliated with???? It was written by Republicans, but he passed it into law. Once again, both parties need to accept responsibility.
     
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    shoobee You seem unable to find any problems or negatives with Obama’s presidency and I think its safe to assume you will be unwilling to listen to or accept any information that runs counter to what you want to believe. Take this news foe example. Do you think this component of Obama’s job performance evaluation has earned him the job again?

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/oba...residents-george-washington-through-george-hw

    Or will you try to pin the blame for this everywhere except Obama?? Since I prefer substance over slogans, I hope you are willing to reason together and address this matter. Is this the hope and change you and the USA was looking for?
     
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