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Mentality of athletes with contracts?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by NY Bowhunter, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. NY Bowhunter

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    First let me say, we all understand the money in general these guys get is absurd. I'd rather not have it turn into one of "those" discussions. That being said.... I can't for the life of me understand the logic these guys adopt sometimes. It happens time and time again.

    Recently Robinson Cano left the Yankees and signed with the Mariners. The Yankees didn't want to give a 10 year contract to a 31 year old. Understandable... see back end of every 10 year contract ever signed. So they offer him 25 million over 7 years!! Wow good money right? The Mariners offer him 240 million and give him the 10 years! Done deal.

    Why on Gods green earth would you leave the yankees to play in Seattle? You're making essentially the same over the next 7 years of your career. You are a multi mega millionaire and will never spend that money in 10 lifetimes. Not like you're being asked to make $100,000 a year to stay. It's still HUGE money. And you will be surrounded by a stacked lineup from top to bottom at the Yankees throughout your career. Go to Seattle and fade into oblivion maybe never playing another playoff game? You are now batters 2-5 in the lineup? It just boggles my mind really. You have the fame, protection everywhere in lineup, short left field, merchandising, commercials, etc...... Leave, put up some numbers, and get rained on in Seattle?

    Not just Cano, but you see it all the time. Wouldnt one at that point in your athletic career want to win championships? Make a mark in history? Play in playoff games? Have a loaded team around you?

    Disclaimer: This isn't a sour grapes speech lol. Just an observation. Actually while it does suck to lose a player like Cano, I dont' think the offense will suffer that much. They signed Ellsbury, Beltran and Mcann. In fact it may be better. I just dont' understand the logic sometimes.
     
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    I think Cano's contract had more to do with Jay-Z trying to make a name for himself and getting the huge contract. That being said, I'd take playoffs and being a NYY legend over being a Mariner any day. Look at the Pujols deal. Yeah, he got paid, but does anyone think he doesn't regret the move, at least a little?
     
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    Isn't there a lot of pressure from the players union for these guys to take the largest contract they can, no matter who it is offering it to them?
     
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    I totally agree with this. Jay-Z wants to make himself a player and now with this contract, it's a "look what I can get for you" kind of thing. I don't think its good for Cano or baseball but sadly this is the direction it's going. The majority of players want to play as individuals even if it means a bad team and leaving a cushy job in NY.


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    Idc how much money I made, it'd be extremely hard to say no thanks to 72 MILLION DOLLARS! That's not chump change to anyone.

    It's not smart for players to turn down Max 10 year deals just as its not smart for teams to actually offer them. Can't have it both ways (teams shouldn't offer and players shouldn't accept).
     
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    They wont spend the money in 10 lifetimes?

    Ask Mike Tyson how that went for him.
     
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    Exactly.....more often than not its the same story....broke broke broke.....


    Also its not about the team....as you know its a business....getting the "right" contract has very little to do with the actual player and his ideals in the majority of cases I believe....most are pawns of the people behind the scenes and rarely make a decision without a little birdie chirping

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    This......
     
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    I agree. Plus who knows what he does with his cash? Maybe he sends a bunch of it back to his native Dominican Republic or something?
     
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    Without knowing the details of the contract, I would say, get what you can. Is his 10 years fully guaranteed? Is it front loaded, where he will receive the bulk of it earlier, rather than later? Was there a signing bonus, and if so, how much was it, and was it bigger than the Yankee's offer?

    I say take what you can get. Between the agents, lawyers, taxes, and everyone else that's getting a chunk of it, get it while you can. If the players aren't making it, the owners are.

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    Yes, his contract is guaranteed. I'd take the money too. In the grand scheme of things, 76 million dollars wins over championships and legacy every time.

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    Ok .. maybe slightly exaggerated with the 10 lifetimes.

    And it's not like he hasn't made money to this point in his career. The dude is already multi mega million rich. Also it wouldn't be an extra 76 million. At the end of the 7 year deal I'm sure he's be picked up for a 2-3 year deal at a "reduced rate" of 10 -15 million or so. IDK I guess maybe it's just me. If I'd been playing since I was in diapers and was my dream to make it to the majors, Id want to accomplish everything there is to in the game that is my life. Multi-millionaire... check...... I could honestly say I'd have to think very long and hard about staying put and being surrounded by talent and chance of winning multiple championships, breaking records and defining my legacy on the game. And still being filthy rich.
     
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    Why do Yankees fans assume that everyone wants to play for them?
     
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    Maybe the fact that he WAS a Yankee? Why would anyone want to play for Seattle?
     
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    You assume a 38 yo second basemen would be signed to a "reduced rate" of 15 mil/year? That's a bit of a stretch. 25 over 7 years is 175 million. 24 over 10 is 240 million. That is a guaranteed 65 MILLION DOLLAR difference. That is a huge chunk of change. And it is not out of the realm of possibility that Seattle could win a title over the next decade.

    I see both sides of this for sure, and in many cases agree. It would have been MORONIC for Lebron to hold out for 23 million per year over the 18 he settled on with the Heat. He took the pay cut to win titles, and increase his pay ten fold with branding. But that's a 20 million or so difference with the biggest icon of sports in the world currently. I doubt Cano can come close to making up the difference of 65 million with the Yankees.
     
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    Seattle didn't win a title when they had Randy Johnson, Alex Rodriguez and Ken Griffey JR all on the same team. A world series title is not going to happen unless they sign a LOT more Cano type players. They have a huge climb to even compete in a division with Oakland and Texas.
     
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    The Yankees aren't exactly thrilling either. They have a shortstop that should have retired, a 3b that may or not play and if he does isn't that good, a bad pitching staff and a not so great bullpen. Yes, they can buy players, but teams seem to be locking up stars more and more now.

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    Agreed, but they are still the Yankees. They will always at least draw interest from the premiere free agents. They don't rebuild, they simply reload.
     
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    I see where your coming from NY. He will also suffer from losing that short right porch, and will be labeled over paid in 4 years, then comes the stress to prove he's not. We will see it a lot over the next 8 years...as there are several deals of this nature coming due. Can't blame him, but there is more "side money" in NYC.
     

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