man this kid got lucky

Geesh dude.......it's just a question on what you think the success rate is for this shot in the field every year by all bow hunters.


How about this??........is it a high percentage shot that should be recommended any bow hunter takes if given the chance??

Or

Of all the shots taken at elk in the wild by bow hunters what do you think is the LOWEST success rate of them all??

Broadside

Quartering away

Quarter to/Frontal

 

Here is an illustration of the "hole"


If you have the time, here is a "rough" video where a bowsite member breaks down the frontal shot.



Here is another one from the same user that really shows the skeletal structure. The leg and shoulder sit further forward than whitetail and really allow you to shoot for the "V" on broadside shots.

 

I know this isn't directed for me but I have been looking for a point to throw this into the shot placement mix.

I have passed on quartering away shots. With the chest cavity on elk being larger you do run into the possibility of only catching one lung. I've done it before and it made for a long day.

 

Guess Tony........and I were right.

 

Under 20 yards with his head up? I would recommend this shot 10 times out of 10.

Every year there are far more threads started on here about animals that got away when a shot was "broadside" or "just barley quartering". I don't ever see any started that say "he was facing me head on". Maybe they don't want to post them or maybe they KILL the animal when that shot is taken? I told you I'm not going to make up numbers on what I believe happens. I'll just say what I know 2 for 2.

 

I really wish you both would read. Just like I told Tony, I dropped the conversation between you and I.

I added evidence.

 

Perhaps you should follow your own advice because after stomping out of the thread like a child TWICE you have now directly responded to my quotes 3 times.


You must be a young kid to put such little stock in the value of keeping your word. If you're going to take your ball and run home like a child at least be man enough to keep your word (proper use of your and you're three times for future reference for you).


I'll tell Tony to await your apology but my guess is he shouldn't hold his breath.

 

It's a simple question........your endless attempts to dodge it only tell me you know the answer and that's why you won't post it.


Show me a respectable hunting resource that lists the frontal shot as the highest percentage (or hell, just not the LOWEST percentage shot along with the Tex s heart shot) for a bow hunter to take on an elk or a deer.

 

Let it go Atlas.

 

Actually, I did opt out and jump back in once. Then I dropped our conversation and rejoined the one at hand. I quoted you a few times, yes, on trains of thought different than ours prior. Take it for what it is.

The only people I owe an apology to is everyone on the forum, excluding you and Tony, for the skit you and I put on.

And really with the grammar again? This entire thread you have done nothing but point that out. Please drop it, it's quite ridiculous.

 

Who ever said it was the highest percentage shot? We have simply been discussing whether the frontal shot is a viable option on an elk.

 

Resorting to correcting grammar and personal attacks. Nicely done.

 

How would I know the answer? I answered your question from what I do know. Not from what I guess.

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Atlas, if you're going to talk word usage, maybe you need to learn how to use the word "than". Three different times in this thread you've typed "then", when "than" should have been used. Just saying.

 

Since people like to quote elk 101.

http://elk101.com/featured-articles/features/shot-placement-feature/

"The frontal shot is one that is hotly contested. Those who have made frontal shots can attest to the massive and immediate trauma that a well-placed frontal shot can inflict. The arguments against taking a frontal shot, however, are worth taking a look at as well. Penetration – many hunters will argue that it is difficult to get penetration in this area, referring to the “grapefruit-sized” opening you have to hit in order to miss the ribs. Additionally, the target is smaller, therefore, it is viewed as a low-percentage shot.There are 2 issues that definitely need to be mentioned if you are considering a frontal shot: (1) Don’t aim low. Aiming low puts you in the “sternum” area and although the ribs are small in this area,*at a fully frontal angle they are concentrated and it is best to hit above them. (2) Be sure to hit in the center and not to the side. Shooting off-center (especially combined with a low shot) on a frontal shot exposes an arrow to deflection off the ribs, resulting in the arrow penetrating between the rib cage and the shoulder blade. The image to the*left shows where to aim on a straight-on (frontal) shot. Avoid aiming at the transition of dark to light hair – this is where the sternum comes together and you can also see the leg bones are closer together in this area. Aim halfway up the body cavity, just as you would on a broadside shot. In this area you have a 12″ window that will safely take you into the vitals. Additionally, the jugular as well as several other main arteries run through here, and the resulting blood loss from a shot in this area can be devastating.When it comes to shot placement on elk, the bottom line is this – shoot where you are confident. This applies to every aspect of the shot: distance, angle, etc. Practice at the distances you plan to shoot. Know your limits and STICK TO THEM IN THE FIELD! Educate yourself on anatomy – know ahead of time where you need to aim, and where you are comfortable aiming to make a clean shot, and STICK TO IT! Frustration and desperation have to lead to success, but more often than not, they lead to failure. Be patient and wait for a shot you are confident you can make. There is only one feeling worse than tracking an elk after a bad shot, and that is not finding that elk. Educate yourself and practice, and your confidence will lead to success in the field!"




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A Couple?

 

Watch this! Enough said!!! :p

 

Kid looked cool under pressure, calculated, practiced, excited and prepared to do the job and did it very well.

 

Yep, it never knew they were even around.