hey fellas, I went shooting today and had a horrible day and lost two arrows and broke two. now i only have 6 arrows left three with broad heads and three wit practice tips, so i decided to get new arrows all togather i never really liked my arrows i have now. (carbon Hunter 55/70) But i am horribly confused of how to even start looking for arrows and know what would suit me best. What is arrow spine, what does the 55/70 mean? or the 8.4 gpl? all i know is ill probably be shooting muzzy 3 blade broad heads. but thats about all i know for sure about my future arrows. Any help or recommendations would be really appreciated. thanks guys
MN, 55/70 is a spine number, though not really indicative, the spine of those arrows is a .400 spine or near. With your bow, that spine should be just fine. If you get Cabela's Arrows again though, get the Carbon Stalker Extremes, they are a bit tougher, and a LOT more consistent. Also KNOW your limitations, and don't shoot outside of them, it'll save you a bit of $$$$ in the long run, and a LOT of frustration!!!
You should definitely use a .400 spine. If you're looking and Beman or Easton arrows the spine is indicated as .300, .340, .400, or .500. Basically, how this "spine" is figured is that they take an arrow and support it at both ends, hanging a weight from the center. They measure the amount of deflection or how much the arrow bends from perfectly horizontal. Therefore the LOWER the spine number, the stiffer the arrows. For other brands such as Carbon Express or Gold Tip, they use designation 35/55, 55/75, or 75/95. This denotes the most common draw weights that each particular arrow should shoot. The 35/55 is like the .500 in the Easton, 55/75 close to the .400, and the 75/95 is similar to the .300. As an arrow spines are stronger (i.e. 300, 400, 500 etc.) they need more material to make them stiffer. This is where the gpi or grains per inch comes into play. This denotes the weight of the arrow, depending on whether you're looking for a lighter faster arrow, or a heavier arrow with more momentum to drive your broadhead through the animal. That is totally preference and can start a huge debate as to which one is better. 5gpi per pound of draw weight is the standard for the lightest arrow you should shoot for safety reasons. So with your setup, your arrow should weigh no less than 300 grains including tip weight. You should stay with a .400 spine (55/75) or the like. There are lots of different arrows to look at, but here are a few that I would look at that are reasonably priced. Easton ST Epic, Beman ICS Hunter, Beman ICS Bowhunter. Personally, I shoot the Easton ST Axis and it's an extremely tough arrow. Also the GoldTip Hunters are good arrows. Hope this helps.
thanks guys, i could not have gotten a better explaination than that anywhere else. im glad i finally know what all this means, thanks alot
so that means the arrows i use now have a 8.4 gpi, is that like a medium? you said 5gpi is a minimum what is the typical maximum? i think with my new arrows i want i little more punch than what i have now...
There really is no maximum weight. Some people like 500 grain arrows others like 350 grain it is all personal preference. 8.4 gpi will give you roughly a 370-380 gr arrow depending on fletching and arrow length. If you want a little heavier arrow look at 9-10 gpi. Easton has arrows that fit in that category. You could also look at Beman MFX arrows. I just switched to Easton FMJ this year. They are 10.2 gpi and total arrow weight is 415 grains. Heavier arrows will also quiet your bow down more. I am farely new to arrow weights also, just keep hanging around and asking questions and the people on here will help you out.
thanks guys, i have done a little shopping around and i really like the beman ICS hunter arrows, and the easton ST epic arrows, the arrows i have now are 29 1/4" long, so ill probaby buy the 30" long shafts? except all the places i look they only offer 8.6 gpi, and that isnt any bigger than what i have now...is there something im missing or can you find heavier .400 spine arrows?
yeah a 340 would be a heavier arrow in a beman, probably something like 10.1 gpi or somewhere in that range but brands differ on the spine number so you have to watch that. like in Carbon Express the smaller the number the lighter they are. but i know for a fact beman 340's are heavier than 400's
Beman MFX 400 are 9.6 gpi. Easton Axis are 9 gpi for black shafts and 9.8 gpi for camo. The ICS and Epics in 400 don't go any heavier then what you found. Like stated the 340 would be heavier but I don't know how they will spine out for you. You should look at the MFX 400s.
As far as brands, I decided to try some Victory arrows out to add to my collection, after exclusively shooting A/C/C's for the last several years, and I must say they are a great arrow. I bought the best they put out, which is the V-Force VI and I paid $80 a dozen to my door from a guy on AT.
i ended up getting easton axis arrows. i went to a pro shop and shot all the arrows i could. and i really like the axis arrows. they were the best arrows for the price in my mind. thanks guys for guiding me in the right direction
Go to the Easton Technical web-site. Use their arrow selector program. Don't cheap out on the contact point between you and the target!
do you have a link to that website? to make sure everything lines up the way it is supposed to....the arrows are flying great for me tho, be nice to still check out thanks
Beman ics hunters are extremly tough arrows, I think you get more bang for you buck with these arrows and they are relative inexpensive as well.