EI... What's your reasoning for NOT updating your climber ....by adding the stabilization straps? Has to be a reason.....but I can't think of one. I think they're around $10. Just curious. Also....since you obviously don't use these.....HOW is your upper connected to your platform while you're climbing? And....are you hooked up as you ascend/descend? Whether you are or aren't doesn't affect me in the least. Not why I'm asking. I ONLY like to know if people are utilizing their LW the way I do (and I'm NOT saying "my way" is right). Thanks.
Jeff, that's a more than fair question. When I bought my first S & C way back when, it didn't have anything to keep the two sections together, which I thought was dumb as hell. So, I just tied a piece of strong cord about the lenght of one of my legs to both sections to avoid a bad scene.:D That stand was stolen (locked) and I replaced it with another S & C which also didn't come with the new straps. I've gotten sooo used to climbing with this "old school" hook up that I've really never seen the need for me to change anything. Cost isn't a factor. Also, those straps look like they are just waiting to get tangled with something. My single cord has served it's purpose, although it's only been tested one time. Touch wood. As I've mentioned previously, and I'm certainly NOT CONDONING this practice, I'm not connected going up or down with my stand. I KNOW I should be.
No issue with the connectivity. That's your business. But the straps are the bomb (stabilization straps). My bow's 60", and I don't have "tangle" issues at all. ONLY reason for posting this is.....maybe you'll try them. It would make that tree peg obsolete....and they help in packing. Not much of an investment to find out....and if you don't like them, I'll buy them from you. I could use a new set for my S&C upper (I broke ....my fault....one of the female clips on my upper).
Thanks for all the opinions, I really had my mind set on one of these climbers, and will probably still go with one? At this point was considering the S&C, although converting the seat to a hammock type? What I actually had inmind was to order an Ole Man replacement net seat and find a way to attach it to the LW climber and get rid of the big original seat? I have heard many opinions where the Ole Man net seats are very comfortable? So any opinions between the two? would you just go with a HC seat and be done with it, or go for a little more comfort and convert the S&C seat? Don't believe I would care for the original S&C seat, the way it sits below the top frame? Thanks
Jeff, you may have talked me into giving them a try. As far as making the tree hook obsolete, I don't know. How would the stabilizer straps stop the seat section from sliding down the tree and contacting the flatform? That's what the screw hook does. Isn't their function to simply keep the two sections together? Limbhanger, I have heard many times that the seat section (which is supposed to be very comfy) of the Summit added to the LW stand works beautifully. Just thought I'd mention that.
Keep in mind that the Lone Wolf sitnclimb seat or at least the original seats were designed so when the hunter stood up, the seat sort of slid back toward the tree so the hunter had much more room to take a shot............thats another reason I prefer the LW over other sitnclimb stands. Not much worse than a guy sticking out like a sore thumb in a treestand when he has to be so far from the tree IMO. I have little experience with hand climbers other than the original Loggy climbers.
I believe once the stand is in place you tighten them and that creates tension that holds everything in place.
Yes, it will no doubt hold the 2 sections together, but how does this setup disallow the seat section from coming down to the platform in the event of a "perfect storm"?
Yes, have heard that also, although I believe it sits down in the frame like the original S&C seat? I was looking to convert it something on the order of the one you posted earlier, where it sits even with the top frame of the climber. Bye the way you spoke of adding a cushion for added comfort, although how did you convert the climber first off before the cushion? Thanks
Yes, I do like this option, and I'am leaning more towards the S&C because of it. Although, I do not believe I will care for that big bulky seat? The reason where I'am looking to convert it, and a hammock type would also slide back too. I have seen aftermarket hammocks for these, but not sure how well they work? But believe with a little extra work, I can take a Ole Man replacement net seat and make it work?
Actually I didn't convert anything. I just put/tie the cushion right on top of the original hammock (I think that's what they call it) style seat that came with it, as shown in the earlier pic.
The straps are pulling down, after you tighten them, applying the same pressure to the seat as if you are sitting in it and applying downward pressure.
I didn't realize the earlier models came with those types of seats? I personally would like that type over the the big bulky type that is available now. After seeing a close up of yours, I'am thinking the replacent Ole Man net seats will work ? It would basically be hammock netting instead of the hammock cloth seat you have? Thanks
I wouldn't think there would be a problem using that set up. The seat on my stand isn't horrible, but I just wouldn't call it a great all day seat either.
Bruce is exactly right. The connection on the platform is at the rear. The connection on the upper is towards the front. It creates the same effect as if you were sitting in the stand the entire time. It really is nice.
Lol with the appropriate level of experience one should know the answer to this. Sorry man had to. Btw with either a bungi or a screw in step they both are doing the job.
What you say is very true. The only thing is, I've got ZERO experience with these stabilizer straps as they didn't come with my stand. Mine's a much older stand.
I now use the hammock type seat, bought it on Ebay for $19 plus shipping. Works well and is comfy enough for me. For the record I once added a Summit Bushmaster seat to a LW sitnclimb and it was very comfy. The problem was when I climbed the Summit seat was in the way and I constantly had to move it as I climbed or it would scrape against the tree.
I hated the LW Sit/Climb seat. It was too close to the tree while sitting, yet would not stay close enough to the tree while standing. Extremely uncomfortable to "Me". I bought the LW handclimber upper and loved the packability of it. Very quiet stand and fairly easy to climb with. Hated the comfort issue (bad lower back). Tried adding my own padded cushion and really did not help that much. Also has no ability to flip up the seat portion and get close to the tree. Just was not comfortable at all to me after an hour or so. I went back to Summit. I now use my Viper platform (lower) and the Openshot Deluxe handclimber upper. I am now extremely satisfied with my stand again. Although the Summit will make a little noise and does not pack as small as the LW, I traded off "Me" being uncomfortable, for "Me" being able to sit a lot longer with less movement from being uncomfortable. I also can now flip up the seat portion and stand with my back against the tree. This is just an opinion from someone who has a bad lower back problem. Someone with no back trouble may well be able to hack the LW. I can not. Summit all the way for me from now on. jmho
