Recently bought my girlfriend a PSE Bow Madness XS. She is shooting it at 40# and at 25" DL. She says she wants to hunt next year so I'm trying to figure out what I need to do about arrows and heads. I was thinking about cutting the arrows long, probably about 26.5 to hopefully get her in a .500 spine as .600 is kind of hard to find. I was thinking of going with Beman ICS Hunters which come in at 7.3GPI and stick a 125 grain head on the end. And once we get to a broad head portion of all this I was thinking we would go with the Slick Trick Razortricks or the NAP HellRazors. This would stick her arrow at about 330 grains. Do you guys think this would work fine? We aren't looking for Olympic distance here. I know her kill distance would be limited to about 20 yards. Just trying to make sure this spine and weight would give her the best chances toward a successful kill within 20 yards. Any ideas are welcome. I know when dealing with light poundage and short DL the arrow becomes even more important and I want to make sure I get it right.
My little brother shoots 40lbs at 26", he shoots an arrow that weighs in the mid 300gr range with 100gr Ramcats with good results on paper. One thing you might want to look at in your calculations is all the parts of the arrow. 7.3x26.5=weight of shaft+ 6gr per blazer vane+about 14gr for a standard insert+ a few grains for a nock+125gr head... That comes out to about 360grains. I could be doing something different but thats my rough estimate. 100gr would keep her arrows shooting flatter and quicker even if it is only a 20yd shot. I know my brothers arrows arc pretty heavy as they are, however as long as its a sharp broadhead and good shot placement 40lbs should do the trick regardless
.600 easton axis with 75 gr brass inserts with 100 gr magnus stinger buzzcuts. (4 blade, 2 bleeders) This is exactly what my son uses at 45# and 25" draw. Don't worry about the speed of her setup. It will be slow no matter what and penetration is her number 1 concern after accuracy. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
I would recommend feathers as well. They stabilize slower arrows better and will not hang up in a deer like plastic fletch will. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
Thanks I'll look into it. Didn't even think about using feathers. Although it may be difficult as I don't have a way of fletching right now and she is pretty stuck on a whisker biscuit. Trying to ween her away from it but thats what shes comfortable with and thats probably more important. Maybe by summer I'll get her converted to something else. And I'm not worried about speed in the least. In fact I was worried the arrow I was talking about building was too light. What length arrow do you use with your sons set-up?
My son's arrow is about 25 1/2" long. Little long to lighten the dynamic spine of the arrow. I personally very much dislike the WB. If I were forced to use one, I would shoot feathers through it. They just tune better that way for me. You might want to setup 6 to practice with and 6 to hunt with. That way you always have good feathers on the arrows. Not saying this is the only way to go but in my experience, it is the best for a light poundage set up. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
Not a fan of the quicktune either. The brushes and rest on them are flimsy. Used one for the 2011 season won't use one again. Won't a WB tear up feathers very quickly? A biscuit doesn't really do any damage to the Quickfletchs we have been using. They do wear out a little quicker than what I run on my bow but not so much so that its really a problem. Aren't feathers pretty fragile?
Feathers aren't "fragile" even when they get torn, they still do their job. They will wear out through a WB but the advantages would outweigh the negatives for me. Why not just use a full containment rest like a QAD? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
Like I said if she likes the full containment of the WB use the nap Quiktune 360. It will not contact vanes and it is still full containment
Its not so much me. I'm all for it. Would love to get her a QAD so it doesn't go down on a slow let down. I just have to talk her into it. She is hard headed and if she doesn't like the idea she just won't do it. And when I mentioned getting a full containment drop away she was not excited about it. I'll get her to come around but I want her to be comfortable and pick what she wants. I'll lay all the info I can out for her show her what I think but in the end its her decision. About the only thing she doesn't get a say in is arrows and broadheads. Last time she picked arrows I ended up spending $77 for a half dozen CX Mayhem Hot Pursuits because they looked cool. Great arrows I am sure but thats just a a lot of money for 6 arrows. Thank you for all your info. You may be getting a PM from me as this pursuit gets more in depth and closer to buying time. Thanks again.
It still has some of the same issues. Restricting the arrows natural movement is not a good thing. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
If I'm going to spend more money on a rest it will be a drop away. Just have to get her on board. The QT 360 is a fine rest for what it is but it wouldn't really be much of a step up from a WB if at all. As TFox says it still presents most of the same issues minus fletching wear and tear.
Let her watch these videos and make an informed decision. Notice how the fletch is flapping like bird wings. These are stiff vanes. This bow has great nock travel but if the bow doesn't have nock travel this level, the arrow will kick when it goes through the rest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqJgaZxREf0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Now watch how the arrow flies when leaving one of the best rest on the market. And they have a full containment midel as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKrwVQJebaY&feature=youtube_gdata_player The QAD is a very good rest but not the best imo and I use one to hunt with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQHodqZgDNM&feature=youtube_gdata_player Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
The limb driver pro v will probably be the next rest I buy for myself. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
