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Letting the little guy get his freak on?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by MichiHunter, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. ruck139

    ruck139 Weekend Warrior

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    I wouldn't, not enough energy in that setup. Plus if he actually hits the deer and doesn't kill it, it may turn him off to hunting. Let him watch you kill a deer, it will either turn him off, or get him totally pumped for when he can shoot a powerful enough bow. I would say when he can pull 40lbs minimum, and that using a heavy arrow and a small cut on contact two blade head. IMO 9 is too young, here in NY you have to be 14.
     
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    My son got a complete passthrough with a 38# bow @24" draw

    Complete passthrough with a 40# bow at 23" draw arrow stuck in tree after passthrough


    Both were with 1716 arrows tipped with magbus stingers. 1 38# setup had bleeders installed on buzzcuts.

    Also had feathers.

    The decision is yours, it is light and he is young but it is doable.






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    My daughter is 9 and also is into bowhunting yet cant draw sufficient weight and frankly isn't accurate enough. So I let her shoot a crossbow. Legal and she shoots it very well and obviously beyond enough to kill.

    Is kinda interesting MI has no reg on it.
     
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    Really sounds like a lot of traditional setups which are all more than deadly

    other than draw length
     
  5. MichiHunter

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    Yeah, he's just gonna have to wait 'til he gets bigger. Maybe next year. I just wanted confirmation that I was correct in my decision. When we go to the range, I'm shocked at how quickly that arrow comes off of his bow. It starts to take a serious dip at 20 yes. But its nasty at 10-15.
     
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    Arrows were in the 360 gr range and yea, draw length was short.


    You have to treat them as if they were traditional equipment.

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    I believe Indiana is #35 lbs, and that struggles to get good penetration, (I know from a young boy I know). I would say don't let him shoot.
     
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    Exactly CLOSE clean shots, and the clean heavy arrow setup.
     
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    I think the better question is....will he or you be o.k with it should he shoot and make an o.k shot but not recover the deer because of the set up ( this could happen to anyone but more likely with less power. My 2 cents is I would wait a year maybe two
     
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    JGD Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I say NO. What's the hurry? Let him hunt with you and have something to look forward to. We seem to rush our kids into adulthood way too soon and wonder why nothing entertains them when they're 16 because they've seen or done it all. Taking the life of an animal is a pretty big deal to me. It was an awesome experience when my son took his first big game animal at 14 (legal age at the time in WY) and he never felt like he missed a thing by waiting. Just my $.02 worth. Sounds like you made the decision to wait. Good for you and good luck hunting with him this year.
     
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    MichiHunter Weekend Warrior

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    That's exactly right. The overall goal is to bring it home. If we can't confidently say that it's coming home with us, we wait, treat the deer right for the next season, maybe they'll hang around for him. If they only knew why we're being so nice to them.

    And they've still got my 14 yr old to deal with. We don't have a problem with that draw weight. :)
     
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    shot my first deer with a 40 pound 70's bear whitetail 2 that i guarantee had less KE than your sons bow.
     
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    Both my daughter and son started hunting when they were 8. Son started bow hunting at 11 and has taken 4 with a bow. Just turned 15.


    I never let my daughter bow hunt because of my ignorance to the effects of archery equipment. She couldn't pull heavy poundage because she was right handed but shot left handed due to eye dominance.

    By the time she could pull the weight I THOUGHT was needed. She had lost interest.

    Big mistake on my part, wish I had let her when she was younger. Now we will never get to experience that together.


    My son's first bowkill was a big eye opener for me. Never dreamed he would get a passthrough, much less the arrow sticking in a tree afterwards.

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    I would not allow him to hunt.
     
  15. WIYouthBowhunter

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    I shot my first deer at 36# last year with Bear Odyssey. If he is accurate enough, try to get him a quartering away shot and have him put the arrow behind the rib cage. Thats what I had to do, but at 36# that got the liver, both lungs, and hit the opposite shoulder. That was with a expandable Miniblaster though so he should be at about the same with less poundage and a fixed blade broadhead.
     
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    PA IS 35 LBS / i made my son wait til he could pull back 40 lbs
     
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    That was my rule as well. Until I saw the arrow stuck in the tree after the passthrough at 40# . The next year my son used 38# with the same results.


    I doubt 25# -30# would get a passthrough but it will get into the vitals.

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