We've had some great topo talk before, and I've learned quite a bit. This is the topo map for the state forest that I hunt. I've posted this before if it looks familiar. The red lines are property lines The contour lines are 10' of elevation change. The dashed black lines are cart roads or walking trails. there is no way to access the land from the north. Being two years out from my stroke I'm in much better condition, and I'm walking 4 miles 3 times a week with some running mixed in. I've noticed a big change in my stamina and I think it's time to go the extra mile(s). The first map is the area that I'm looking at going to. the very top. there are quite a few land features that are catching my attention. circled in blue. if it were all flat, and no hills, it would be 2.2 miles by the dashed lines(cart road) from where I park. but factoring in the hills, I'm thinking it's much more. there is some serious terrain here, as shown in the second map. Thoughts on the circled area?? The second map: Starting at the very bottom of the map at the black dot. I park maybe 50 yards to the south of the black dot. The yellow dot is the vicinity of where i shot my buck last year, and where I have traditionally hunted throughout the years. it takes me 45 minutes to get to the yellow dot from where I Park. The green dot is where I have found a major travel corridor along the blazed property line, I've been hunting secondary trails all of these years. The blue circle is the area I travelled to last year scouted and hunted. the saddle that leads to no where. There was a buck run on the military crest of the hill, but it was nothing to write home about. It took me over an hour to get there in the dark. That's the farthest I've gone and scouted. no signs of any other hunters at all, no signs of shotgun hunters either. The last leg of this trip is brutal. it's about 100' of elevation change in a short distance. the trail is very washed out with big rocks and boulders exposed. I'm postin a picture of it to give you an idea of the terrain I have to walk through to get there. Using a mountain bike is out of the question in the dark at 4:30 in the morning. I don't have the balance anymore either after my stroke. A kayak or canoe is an option to explore, but that costs $$, and getting it down there would be a nightmare. I would have to leave it down there and hide it/cammo it in and worry about potential theft. Would it benefit me that much? it would cut out that NASTY hill. Looking forward to feedback from people in the know about the first map area I have circled.