Let's Talk Sights.

I'm looking to purchase a new sight for my bow when it gets here in a few weeks, and after shooting my the bare bones, but reliable Swords for years, I'm in the market for something new. Specifically, a 3 pin slider.

I really am torn between the following:

• Axcel Accutouch HD with Accustat Head
• MBG Ascent Verdict
• HHA KP-3519

I like the price point of the MBG and their pin brightness. They're lacking some of the finer micro adjust features that you have on the Axcel, but again, that is reflected in the price.

The Axcel is loaded with pretty much every feature imaginable, and I really like how well they're built (albeit, they are a bit on the heavy side).

I have no experience with HHA, and never really gave them a thought until they released their multi pin slider this year.

I don't think I'm going to run a dovetail this time around, FWIW.

Would love to hear everyone's experiences and thoughts regarding any or all of these sights.

 

Love axcel sights and MBG. Not a fan of HHA in the slightest. I think the axcel you mentioned is the better sight but mbg has THE brightest pins on the market. I wish their system was more intuitive. I would go with the axcel

 

I have the carbon dovetail Accutouch. I wouldn't call it heavy though I never handled a standard mount accutouch.

Love everything about it. I had a 3 pin accustat scope but sold it on AT... There wasn't anything wrong with it or the design I just bought one with blue fibers and I did not like the blue at all. Currently using the AV-41 scope.

 

Is that your hunting or 3d setup? I thought I saw a standard mount HD on your Centergy?

 

MBG does make a nice sight and your are correct their pin brightness is fantastic. But for my money the Axcel Accutouch is the best sight I've personally owned. It's been very durable,the micro adjust features are great, pin brightness is good and I just love a 3 pin slider (best of both worlds). As for the weight - it's not the lightest sight I've owned but definitely not the heaviest either and overall I like a fairly light bow set-up. The weight of the sight would not deter me from purchasing again.

 

3D and quite possibly hunting.

It's the carbon.



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I currently have both an MBG 3 pin Ascent and Axcel (Covert). HHA has a tendancy to get in the way of a quiver if you leave it on when you shoot causing it to stick way out on the side, or adding a bracket if you have a Tight Spot.

My Ascent has a tendancy to vibrate a little on the shot, the more screws and miving parts the more noise something can make.

I prefer the MBG the most. A little more simple and functionality is good.

 

I went with the MBG Ascent Verdict. I ordered it in 2 pin. I have nothing but good to say about it. I choose it because the slide tape is chosen mathematically, not by "guessing". Set your 20 yard pin. Get your arrow speed by chrono and match the tape to that speed. Good to go.

 

I've owned and used both the HHA and the Axcel sights extensively, although I haven't seen the multi-pin scope for the HHA yet. I'll be ordering one and most likely hunting with it this year though if I like it. I have no experience with the MBG so I really can't comment on that.

Both sights are top end and I don't think you can go wrong with either. Fit and finish is a bit cleaner on the Axcel, however overall ruggedness of the HHA is a bit better. I had several times over the course of the season where both my Axcel and CBE setups somehow got bumped or needed to be re-sighted in. If you just grab the scope setup and lightly torque it while in a bow vise you'll see you can easily change the 2nd and/or third axis on the sight even when it's fully cranked down. I probably am a bit rough with my hunting stuff but I didn't really like this. That doesn't happen with the HHA.

The HHA stuff is a bit more bulky and not quite as refined looking but everything is overbuilt and solid. There are locking set screws for 2nd/3rd axis to prevent anything from moving, I've never seen this on another sight like these. I hunted late season with one and then shot an indoor 3D league with another and have never lost my marks or had to re-sight these in. I also really like the removable wheel so you can run different sight tapes, I've already used these a couple times and bought a couple spares.

Both are the best of the best in my opinion. I don't think you can go wrong with either, and the things I outlined above are small nitpicky things. I do think the Axcel is a bit more visually appealing and their machining processes (just like their releases) are top end and very clean overall.

 

I had an MBG 3 pin Ascent, then an HHA XL-5519 single pin, and recently bought another MBG Ascent but single pin this time. I love the HHA but hate the quiver mounting with the slider (not wheel type). That is really the only reason I went back to MBG. I can mount my Tightspot quivers without any extra brackets or spacers that push the quiver out and ruin the point of a Tightspot quiver.

 

Have you tried a kingpin? I also run a tightspot quiver and use just the regular quick release bracket that came with the quiver with no clearance issues?

 

I have not tried the Kingpin, the price made me second guess trying it. I was giving them a hard look though when I found the Ascent in as new condition for a great price on a local Texas forum.

 

I've had a few hha's. I decided to try the axcel. Man what a difference. The 1st one I got was an accutouch. Then I got the amortec. The pins are bright & crisp. I have one hha left. I will be swapping it out as soon as I can.


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Are you running a .010 or a .019 pin?

 

I have both. I have been using the .019 more than the .010. Mostly because I had a hard time seeing the .010 when shooting with indoor lighting.

Now that I don't need to shoot indoors anymore this year I may switch to the .010.

 

Get yourself a LP Pro-Light for that .010 setup. My eyes are starting to go and I've found in the last couple years that when shooting a lens I just can't see a .010 in any situation after adding the clarifier I need. With that said, the LP Pro-Light will help you with that indoor/outdoor problem quite a bit if your eyes are still good enough for a .010 pin. After having one, I don't think I'd ever shoot a 3D scope setup again without that type of light kit.

 

Think I'm going with the Axcel, and I think their pins look small for their size. A few people mentioned they appear a little smaller because they're flared, so unsure of whether to go .010 or .019. I've never shot a single pin setup, otherwise this decision would be easier if I was doing a mult-pin or multi-pin slider.

 

.010 on left in the av-41 plus scope. 019 on the right in the x-41 scope.



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Doesn't look too different to me.

How do you like the AV-41 Plus scope?