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Lets talk about Chic-Fil-A

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Justin, Aug 1, 2012.

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  1. Justin

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    I disagree. I hardly doubt CFA has been supported all this time by such a large amount of gay and pro-gay customers that they will hurt when the flames have subsided. I do however believe that in the future anyone who is pro Free Speech and pro Christianity (which there are still a lot of in this country) will choose CFA over the alternative out of sheer principle. People like to support companies whose beliefs align with their own, which they clearly have done with CFA. I will bet they see a residual growth in their business for a long, long time.

    Have we forgotten that the vast majority of Americans are also Christians? Regardless of the free speech issue, that large of a demographic is sure to support their business for years to come.

    Unless of course the gubment decides they don't like Christianity anymore and forbids those who practice it to leave their homes or patronize local business. After all, Rahm is Jewish.
     
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    Sorry, I was going to fix it for you, but I began cracking up at notion of people treating others as equals.
     
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    Wouldn't be the first time...
     
  4. Vito

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    I laughed.


    And then I realized your statement was possibly true.
     
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    Chick Fill A began in 1946. Its not going anywhere despite the liberal anti free speech crowds bullying.

    In 2010 Chick-fil-A took the industry lead in average sales per restaurant, making an average of $2.7 million per restaurant in 2010 (McDonald's was second with $2.4 million per restaurant). Chick Fil A is not going anywhere despite the liberal anti free speech crowds bullying.

    Chick Fil A has a net worth of about 1.5 billion (with a B) . Its not going anywhere despite the liberal anti free speech crowds bullying.

    This event made them more famous and put more money in their pockets. While it was not scripted and was a bully move by intolerant liberals, it will have a positive net effect on an already successful company. In the end, free speech and Chick Fil A are big winners. Intolerant, anti American politicians and a few on this forum are huge losers. I think it balances out nicely. :lol:
     
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    Yeah but what about the anti free speech crowds bullying?


    Conservative white americans being bullied...now thats rich.
     
  7. Justin

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    I believe the correct term would be "attempting bullying". The conservite white folks won this one. As they always do. :sheep:
     
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    We finally agree on something.
     
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    Again, the winners were free speech (meaning all races, creeds, orientations, etc since free speech is lauded by all) and Chick Fil A. The big losers are intolerant liberal bullies and 3 or 4 guys on Bowhunting talk.com. That’s a great outcome we all can agree on. I’m glad we settled this.
     
  10. Vito

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    Winners and losers in a forum discussion. :lol: Typical sports lover.
     
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    Who reads the Huffinton Post? Really?

    I'm sorry old chum.. no matter how you slice and dice this.. a poor business decision it is.

    You're making too many conclusions about what you think I'm saying.. I'm agreeing with you about the improper imposition of the government telling me what I can and cannot do. I agree.

    I'm just saying this was a poor business choice.

    I'm also saying.. because the CEO is very religious and he in turn runs his business with core Christian values that this subject is more religious than freedom of speech... which was his original intention.

    That's it.. stop reading into my posts for more than they're worth.

    If we cut this down to its basic elements.. a religious lead company openly says it doesn't support gay-marriage.. a few moronic politicians throw their two-cents in to suede future voters (going against Chic).. the people in the middle call "freedom of speech"... and of course this all happens in an election year (probably not coincidence since the independent voter is what's gonna win the election).

    Which is what you are seeing when you go to Chic... You are seeing this as a "freedom of speech" thing.

    I'm just seeing the first guy.. the religious aspect... And a few moronic politicians (Rahm being the key moron) looking for votes.
     
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    "Anti gay" "Bigot" groups Chik-fil-a gave money to (2010) from a Huffington Post article:

    Marriage & Family Foundation: $1,188,380
    Fellowship Of Christian Athletes: $480,000
    National Christian Foundation: $247,500
    New Mexico Christian Foundation: $54,000
    Exodus International: $1,000
    Family Research Council: $1,000
    Georgia Family Council: $2,500

    Does not supporting gay marriage make someone a bigot?

    CFA can do whatever it wants with its profits. The CEO believes in a certain kind of marriage and based on the results of all of the states that voted on this topic or added constitutional amendments the majority does too. People have opinions and they vote their beliefs and they don't have to accept the normalization of something they don't believe is right just because someone else says they should and that doesn't necessarily make them bigots.

    From the looks of things CFA has plenty of fans. Waffle Fries win.<<True story.
     
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  13. Vito

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    Nope, but supporting anti-gay marriage groups does.
     
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    “Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance". Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, economic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality, personal habits, political alignment, race, region, religious or spiritual belief, sex, or sexual orientation. Bigotry is sometimes developed into an ideology or world view.”

    Perhaps the most intolerant and bigoted group in America is the liberal politician and the liber media. They set about attacking and trying to destroy anything that does not align with the liberal mind set. That is what took place with Rahm and Chick Fil A. The ideology and world view of the liberal socialists that have taken over the Democrat party represent the largest group of bigots in America.
     
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    Yeah I see those groups there. Are they known for hateful acts and intolerance towards gays or are they known for supporting Christian beliefs? Does supporting groups with Christsian beliefs make you a bigot or just having Christian beliefs make you a bigot?
     
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  16. Vito

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    In this example, I agree.

    I have no political allegiance. I simply call it as I see it. It just so happens conservatives pull BS more often, so it always appears that I'm attacking them.
     
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    No it doesn't, Vito. Why is it not possible, in your opinion, for someone with religious convictions to hate homosexuality but not hate the homosexual?

    I can't thing of anyone that I hate right now, but I can think of a lot of folks who I know that do things I hate. There is a fundamental difference in hating someone's actions and hating that person.
     
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    When this all came out, me & a coworker discussed it as a poor business decision to alienate a demographic. Because it seems no matter what stance a person takes there are others that will boycott it. Some stances more than others.
    Neither of us realized there were politicians involved spouting things out until later on. When you watched the local news, NOTHING was said about free speech, every person they talked to commented on the gay marriage issue. That's how the pittsburgh media reported it.
     
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    I understand you can hate actions without hating a person. But bigotry is not just about hate. Its also about intolerance.
     
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    ^ = Gay
     
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