Lets talk about Chic-Fil-A

I thought RC and I were in agreement that we should defend legal, privately owned businesses that were under attack by the government, simply because said government doesn't share the same beliefs. But I guess I wrong.

I had no idea RC was a hypocrite.



Disclaimer: Actually, I did.

 

I love how you like to turn things around and completely distort their meaning to suit your needs.

I don't care about what politicians say or what their personal beliefs are. Just like everyone else, that's their right by law. Personally, I wish more politicians would voice their true personal beliefs on things like this so we can decide more effectively who to vote for.

However, the problem here is when they start imposing their will upon the public and taking clearly illegal actions against companies and persons whom they do not agree with. THAT is the root of this problem.

Every person in this country has the right to free speech without fearing what the government is going to do to them if they disagree. Right now these folks are sending a message that says "Either you think like I think and agree with my beliefs, or you will be punished". What part of that sounds like a democracy to you?

 

well said.

 

A christian wrote a book about why being gay is harmful to society??? What???

Well, color me shocked.

 

You keep alluding to this "as long as we agree" argument, without backing it up with actual facts or examples. I want to see some proof that the people who are standing up for CFA's right to do legal business regardless of their beliefs did not support another person or group of people whose RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH was being denied.

I'll be waiting for your sources.

 

I completely agree, which is why I'm shocked you are not hanging out by the abortion clinic in Jackson. A legal, privately owned american business is under attack from our government simply because they don't agree with them.

But I guess thats like fuji apples vs. macintosh apples. Completely different.

 

I admire the CEO of Chik-fil-a for making such a statement and I think it's great seeing everyone support his business because of his beliefs. My religion tells me that homosexuality is wrong therefore, "its freakin wrong". I am against homosexuality, gay marriage and anything to do with it. It's not discrimination because my religion tells me that it is unholy to commit such an act and last I checked the first amendment gave me the freedom of religion.

 

Again, we're talking about a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT that is being denied versus a topic with no constitutional guarantee whatsoever.

On one side there is a hard line, a black and white definition of what constitutes free speech in this country. It can't be debated. It can't be argued. It is what it is.

On the other side there is a massive gray area with no clear definition of what constitutes a human life. Does it start at conception? Does it start at birth? Different people can interpret it different ways. That topic will be debated until all of us are long gone and in the dirt, and it will never be settled.

The difference here is that the abortion clinic does not have a constitutional right to offer their services in the state of Mississippi, or anywhere in the US for that matter. However, CFA DOES have the right to hold their personal beliefs (Not actions or services they are providing to consumers, but solely their BELIEFS) and not fear the consequences from the likes of the government.

We can go back and forth on this all day and in the end we may never agree, but you have to on some level admit that your argument is pretty weak. Maybe you won't admit it publically, but in your little black heart you know it.

 

Yes, please tell me how you've lived your life according to religion. How you have never committed an "unholy" act. Please, share with us why you are allowed to cast the first stone. I'm on pins and needles.

 

yep, but as i said, the book is a 'start' and its filled with research and facts written by practicing 'homosexuals' who occupy professional positions yet not holding back in regards to the dangers of homosexuality from the facts, ......you probably didnt see that one coming, but as i said, with all due respect you are ignorant of and about the issues involved in this case as well as issues regarding homosexuality in a culture, once again, apologies if that gets you hot under the collar, not my intention at all, have a nice day.

 

Well, the problem is; we don't really know "why" someone was there or not there. Some people could be there because they were told to go by someone and they have no clue what the issue is in the first place. You know a lot of people vote with the same level of thought.

Others may feel truly passionate about the government invasion into free enterprise and others may feel passionately that the exercise of free speech is what is at stake. Then some may believe they have the right to freedom from religion and others may believe their right to religion is being threatened.

And most of these positions are solid, except maybe the poor sheep who just went because he/she was told to do so, unless ignorance is also a Constitutional right!

 

I supported C-F last night because I believe in what the man said period. He didn't bash or belittle anyone. Simply stated his beliefs which mirror mine. I won't stand up for an abortion clinic because I don't share the same "values" they have.

 

Thats your right and I'm cool with it, Chris. At least you can admit it.

 

Wow. This is a fascinating argument.

I remember watching this on the news the other day and thinking to myself... what a bonehead move by the company.

Like many on here.. I could care less what one does with their life.. but if your business is making food.. why would you segregate an entire community?

I mean.. if it were me running Chic.. I'd be interested in making more money not making less. (Cause let's face facts.. after this "controversy" gets old.. its still a crappy chicken sammich).

Who cares if a customer is gay... their money isn't.

I don't get what they had to gain by all this.

Personally.. I would fire my marketing manager.

 

You missed the point on the whole thing, and you missed what the values of the owner and ceo are. I going to assume you would also fire the operations manager for closing on Sundays.

 

Free speech is free speech, if some do not like what he or any company stands for, don't go there. It really is that simple.

 

I think you need to brush up on what happened. No one segregated anyone. Some asked the owner what he thought about marriage and he answered the question. What answer did you expect from a christian business owner who closes all of his stores on Sundays? He didn't bash anyone. As far as yesterday goes, it was customer appreciation day and the general public made it a "support freedom of speech" day.

Friday is a "Same sex kiss day" at Chick fil A. I hope they have a good turnout as well and a lot of spicey chicken sandwiches are sold.

 

This entire thing wasn't set in motion by Chick Fil A. There was no anti-gay marketing campaign or discrimination against gays who were either employees or patrons. This entire debate was raised to this level when the politicians decided to punish CFA for having an opinion different than their own.

As a man who appreciates liberty and the freedoms we enjoy as Americans, I thought you'd see that.

 

If JZ is going, I'll definitely be there.