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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Justin, Aug 1, 2012.

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  1. tynimiller

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    The difference is the slicing of or personal definition of "support". I believe in the bible's definition of marriage, but would never, I REPEAT NEVER (or at least try not to, I am human) treat those of opposing viewpoints in a disrespectful way.

    You can respect those who support same-sex marriage, and completely be against what they believe. You can love them, with out supporting their beliefs or cause.

    When discussing homosexuality or anything for that matter the two sides have to have a common footing in order for a logical/rational discussion to occur...in the case of homosexuality this footing isn't always present for the simple fact of what Lunger hinted at. If you believe the bible is 100% the inspired word of God you will never be able to convince or change someone's thinking that feels it isn't. All you can do is love and respect them.

    Opinions are a-whole-nother animal and each person is entitled to one...society just doesn't like that fact and we see that in the actions of the media and the people they cover. You can be on this side of the argument and not be spoken or acted against....but the flip side can't say a word. It's just sad anymore...mankind has lost all sense of what it means to love, respect and communicate with other human beings....

    And in my opinion it all boils down to how many steps we've taken away from God. <---That is an opinion, feel free to comment, disagree or even possibly agree...but be careful because how you answer could prove my whole point even more. :D
     
  2. Rancid Crabtree

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    I think he might be getting a bit tired of him but he no doubt still loves him and tolerates him.

    Obviously this entire event was about free speech but not at the hands of CFA. They have been simply sitting by quietly raking in tons of cash while others are working to support free speech on their behalf. This has been a huge win for CFA and free speech and that includes the free speech of those that don’t care for the free speech of the owner of CFA. The incredibly large outpouring of support for CFA has to give everybody hope for America and we can hope it’s a preview of the November elections and liberalism will be soundly defeated.
     
  3. Vito

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    It causes me to lose hope in our country. It shows how far away we are from treating all people as equals. I was hoping we were closer than this, but its been made pretty obvious that we are still far, far away.

    And before you try to somehow say its just the liberals causing this, I'm referring to people on both sides. Its embarrassing to our country.
     
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    Obviously you are very wrong but I fully support your freedom of speech to be as wrong as you want as often as you want. Americans on both sides of an issue expressing their free speech rights is fantastic and shows equality. There has been no violence, just an open expression of opinions. That screams Mom, Apple Pie and Chevrolet. America’s future is bright and I think this will carry until November where Americans will turn out and peacefully reject liberalism and we can set about making America even better with real change (from the last 3.5 years) and even more hope. It’s a great day.
     
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    Great use of grammar.
     
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    I agree the media hates free speech
     
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    No they hate letting the public know people are standing up to liberal politicians that want to shut down free speech. They dont want to public to know Americans are speaking out and supporting CFA. What they dont report on is sometimes more telling than what they do report on. Thanks to the web, newspapers are no longer relevant. The fourth estate is no more.
     
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  10. Vito

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    Well a bunch of christians telling gays what they can and can't do is nothing new. "Old news" as they say. Gays standing up for themselves and wanting to be treated like people is a newer concept.

    And yes, the media hates free speech. Its so gay.
     
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    You’re a reactionary and contrarian and purposefully try to be provocative. What we type here defines us and explains what we stand for. You typed (and want us to know)

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    If people here are pro freedom of speech and pro religion and pro traditional values, you post that conservative are pro slavery for the shock value. You take the counter culture view simply to try and get a rise out of people. We get it. You’re a jester. You want to be viewed the rebel. We see you, you can stop waving your arms. We get the scam.
     
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    Precious I am headed to Atlanta MI for some camping, fishing and golf. I am going to stop at CFA with your avatar picture and give you a big kiss:)
    I will miss you precious
     
  13. Vito

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    You sure are a quick one RC. It only took you what, 2 years to figure that out? I thought I could get one past you, but you are too smart. You were able to decode my sig lines faster than I expected.

    And no, what we say on a forum does not define who we are. Please tell me you were kidding. What we do in real life defines who we are. This is just a pretend play area for grown ups. Surely you must know this. I mean, where else can you pretend to be smart by posting a bunch of links and talking down to people? You don't do this in real life do you?
     
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    So I am still trying to wrap my mind around something. Its okay to believe the Bible... right? Its just not okay to tell anyone that you believe the Bible is correct, even when asked? Is that correct? So if asked, should we lie... and tell others we don't really believe the Bible is correct... even though we really do... of course if we do that... we really don't. And if we tell people we do believe the Bible... we are bigots. If we tell people we believe it but act contrary to it... we are hypocrits. If we tell people we don't believe it when we do... well that's ridiculous.

    What a tangled mess... but its okay to believe in nothing, stand for nothing and accept anything as being true as long as it works for you, except of course, the Bible? Wow am I ever confused.:confused:

    So what happens if it is true? Then what?
     
  15. Vito

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    My issue becomes when you impose your will on others based on your beliefs. I don't hold those beliefs against you, and you can believe whatever you want. Its when you want OTHERS to live their lives based on YOUR beliefs that I have an issue with.

    So if you don't believe in god or the bible, you believe in nothing? Stand for nothing? Really?
     
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    That would depend on which interpretation is true. I have seen and heard many different ones.
     
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    I my self supporting CFA on this.
     
  18. Vito

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    Where do bad folks go when they die? They go to a lake of fire, and fry.
     
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    (Sigh!) I had hoped this was self explanatory and not requiring explanation. I even stated that What we type here defines us and explains what we stand for since those not here cant see your words in the real world, logic demands it was framed in this community. I didn’t think you wore your sig line around your neck in the real world. This is a community. You are a member of this online community. What you say here defines who you are here and how you are viewed here. Now after explaining the obvious I will post it again so you cant read it in the proper frame of mind as it relates to this forum.

    "You’re a reactionary and contrarian and purposefully try to be provocative. What we type here defines us and explains what we stand for. You typed (and want us to know)

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    If people here are pro freedom of speech and pro religion and pro traditional values, you post that conservative are pro slavery for the shock value. You take the counter culture view simply to try and get a rise out of people. We get it. You’re a jester. You want to be viewed the rebel. We see you, you can stop waving your arms. We get the scam."

    You are an entertainer (mostly entertaining yourself) but I can appreciate yout entertainment value. You being a goof is no doubt much easier than making posts of thought and substance.
     
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    Where we fail as Christians and have since christianity started is we feel we need to push are will on others.
     
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