Lets talk about Chic-Fil-A

So I'm surprised that I haven't seen this topic on here yet. With all the buzz on the News, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

First off, let me say I really don't have any feelings one way or another about gay marriage. If two dudes or two chicks want to get married, by all means have at it. I don't think guys marrying each other is going to bring the end of our world as we know it.

However with that said, I do strongly believe in a person's right to their opinion and beliefs on any and all matters, including marriage. Even if someone's beliefs are different than mine, they are certainly entitled to them. That's what makes our country great. I can live and breathe hunting, while others live and breathe anti-hunting. It's our right as Americans to be able to have an opinion and be vocal about it, without facing repercussions from our government.

As for this Chic-Fil-A matter, I feel there's shame on both sides of this argument. Shame on those who are condemning them for having an opinion that doesn't match their own. If every person out there who is up in arms about this really knew how every CEO of every company felt on every social matter, they'd be boycotting just about every company in the world.

Second, shame on the people who are bashing Chic-Fil-A for being "anti-gay". The last time I checked, they didn't say or do anything that is anti-gay. Nobody from CFA came out and said "We're against gay people and they shouldn've have rights". They simply stated that they believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and that's how it should stay. Seems fair enough to me.

Third, and most shamefully of all, shame on the politicians who spoke out against CFA for their owner's personal beliefs. Shame on them for trying to enforce THEIR personal beliefs on a business and using THEIR power as an elected official to try and limit that business. When we start allowing the government to dictate who can and can't operate a business based on their personal beliefs, we have seriously run astray of the principles this country was founded on. Rahm Emanual should be run out of town for his comments. I would LOVE to see CFA sue the hell out of every elected official who publically stated they wouldn't allow them to practice business based on their beliefs. Nothing would make me happier right now.

Third, shame on the people who are supporting CFA because they (the supporters) are against gay marriage. IMO that's not what this is about. I'm sure CFA appreciates all the support, but IMO these people are supporting the wrong cause. This isn't about gay rights or gay marriage! It's about the government emposing their power over a business based on personal and religious beliefs.

So what's your take on this debacle?

Dusto and I are going for some CFA after I get off work tonight. It's going to be delicious.

 

Well said!

 

Well, since you put a little more thought into yours, you can delete mine. I agree 100%. I could care less about gay marriage. It's all about someone standing up for their beliefs and freedom of speech. You asked a Christian store owner who closes all of his stores on Sunday's and you are shocked that he doesn't believe in gay marriage. How shocking!!! From everyone I've talked to about this they feel the same way. The government officials (mayor of chicago) who say they are going to boycott them from their cities are being ridiculous. After some of the pictures my buddies sent me today, I believe they will have a crazy record for nationwide sales.

 

Well said, I love me some chic-Fila today!!!

 

Its obvious you hate gay people.

 

Great post. I personally believe that homosexuality is wrong due to my faith, but if I would have gone to CFA for lunch today, it would have been to support their first amendment rights and not because of their stance on marriage. These mayors coming out against CFA should be kicked out of office.

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I'll have to study up on this matter as I am new to it and dont yet understand the issue and I dont think we have this chain in WI (which is why I most likely have not heard of it) I will say that I understand what you list as the first group and the 2nd and the third but the second third had me confused.

 

The only issue I have with this is people pretending its about freedom of speech.

 

I support CFA for having a position and sticking to it. This all started from what I have read with CFA donating chicken to an event made up of people who have stated that they were anti-single sex marriage. When the gay activists started attacking CFA, the president came out and said "I think we are inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at him and say, ‘We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage, I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we would have the audacity to try to redefine what marriage is all about.” He went on, "We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that." Now, the gay and lesbian groups along with politicians are labelling the owners of CFA as gay bashers, homophobes, bigots and hate peddlers. It is a common tactic used against people who are not like minded in many sections of our country to label and scorn them. Examples: Neo-con, 1%er, gay basher..... that list could go on and on.
I personally don't care if someone decides to live their life in a same sex partnership. Marriage according to the Holy Bible is between a man and a woman. That is my belief and I will tolerate people of non-hetrosexuality and their beliefs as long as they tolerate mine.

 

I’m learning a bit more about this franchise and I must say I like what I see. They are closed on Sundays. Here they explain why and I must say their reasoning is flawless and built on a solid (former) set of American values of family and faith. They place their values above profits. Refreshing in today’s society.

http://www.chick-fil-a.com/Company/Highlights-Sunday

Still more to learn about this event though.

 

I have also learned this.

CFA owner S. Truett Cathy is a devout Southern Baptist; his religious beliefs have a major impact on the company. The company's official statement of corporate purpose says that the business exists "To glorify God by being a faithful steward of all that is entrusted to us. To have a positive influence on all who come in contact with Chick-fil-A." Chick-fil-A has also included interactive CDs designed by Focus on the Family in some children's meals.

Cathy's beliefs are also responsible for one of the chain's distinctive features: All Chick-fil-A locations (company-owned and franchised, whether in a mall or freestanding) are closed on Sundays, as well as on Thanksgiving and Christmas. Cathy states as the final step in his Five-Step recipe for Business Success "I was not so committed to financial success that I was willing to abandon my principles and priorities. One of the most visible examples of this is our decision to close on Sunday. Our decision to close on Sunday was our way of honoring God and of directing our attention to things that mattered more than our business."

Freaking Brilliant!!!! Im liking this company more and more. Upfront and laudable American values grounded in faith that drive his company. This should be supported and held in the highest regards by all people (except dirty atheists but that another issue)

Still more to learn about the event itself.

 

I pretty much agree with Justin 100%. I'm not for or against gay marriage, couldn't care less.

What Christine Quinn, Thomas Menino, Rahm Emanuel, and Vincent Gray did though is completely out of control. For Menino, Emanuel, and Gray to make a statement is bad enough, but for Quinn to actually put a letter together on government letter head suggesting they be booted from NYU's campus is completely out of control.

 

Oh boy..........here we go.

 

Well that makes up 98.7% of people supporting CFA on this.

1.2% are supporting their right to free speech.

.1% just love the chicken.

 

OK, I am up to speed on the issue and am prepared to render a ruling. CFA is in the right. The words they used are just and righteous and good and resemble the founding of this nation and its core values that have (of late) been trampled and thrown in the toilet by the counter culture crowd and the liberals (but I repeat myself). They are an American business free to have opinions and polices they deem proper even if those stances come at the demise of the company. (they value their values more than profits)

Speech is still free. Those “tolerant” folks that are angry with CFL are not at all tolerant of the opinions of CFL and they are exposed as hypocrits. The leftist, liberal politicians that would try to exert their powers upon CFA, trying to pressure them into disowning their value set are un-American at best and pandering to the counter culture crowd.

CFL has donated many millions to causes they believe in. That makes me like them even more.

My ruling is CFL is right and good and a defender of all that is right and good in regards to this matter. Their speach is protected, as are their opinions. If there were a CFA near by, I would supprt them but only if they had good food.

 

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Samuel Clemens

 

It's obvious you hate CFA.

 

This is what the biggest outrage and news stories should be about.

The owner of a company has an opinion that differs from others. No biggie.

Government officials try to misuse their power to damage said business. That's outrageous.

 

"Third, and most shamefully of all, shame on the politicians who spoke out against CFA for their owner's personal beliefs. Shame on them for trying to enforce THEIR personal beliefs on a business and using THEIR power as an elected official to try and limit that business. When we start allowing the government to dictate who can and can't operate a business based on their personal beliefs, we have seriously run astray of the principles this country was founded on. Rahm Emanual should be run out of town for his comments. I would LOVE to see CFA sue the hell out of every elected official who publically stated they wouldn't allow them to practice business based on their beliefs. Nothing would make me happier right now."

 

Well said.

To me it's "Mob Rule" or in this case "Gay Rule" and today it's CFA their after and tomorrow it may be bow hunters. If we don't stick up for CFA rights then who will be there to stick up for our's?

By definition Marriage is between a man and a women, you want a gay union then just give it your own name but don't call it marriage, that name is taken.

I pray for gays that are so wrapped up in being gay. There's so much more to life.