Let's hear it for North Carolina

Like what some men and women do now? Yeah, I'm sure that could happen. We should probably amend opposite sex marriages.

 

Thanks for the lesson. Again please forgive me if I used an offensive term.

 

Might as well remove him, we've removed him from everything else. How about two same sex roomamtes getting married but aren't gay? I mean they are consenting adults, there's no standard on being in love to get married, they just want some benefits.

 

Then what was the point of throwing that little nugget in there? Him being a sex offender has nothing to do with this thread.

Sex offender are sick ****s. Weather they're gay or straight.

 

Vito I know people do it now, should any two people be able to get married if they want to? Taking gay or straight out of the equation.

 

You really think there is going to be an epidemic of this happening? Are you being serious? Like for real? You think roommates will take the necessary steps to get married, and then at some point divorced, just so they can save a little on taxes...maybe enjoy some health benefits?

Again, I never miss an opportunity.

 

But a man and woman doing exactly what you just described is ok?

 

If they are consenting adults, yes.

 

So only Christians can legally marry?

 

I never said epidemic but it will definitely happen.

 

Okay, maybe I chased an unnecessary rabbit. I don't investigate every neighbor we have but he just popped up on the list when my wife did an I'net search in our community. He's actually a very nice person and I help him and his friend any way I can. I have even had other "off track" neighbors say some pretty ugly things to me because they can't believe a "pastor" would be seen associating with them. I think the point was that many people get their Christian behaviors and unrealistic phobias confused to the point that they treat people in disrespectful ways. I was merely trying to say, no matter how I would have voted concerning the matter or how I feel personally, I would not intentionally begin treating people in a disrespectful way and anyone who does so is just as wrong as the person engaging in whatever behavior that they may disapprove of.

 

I have no problem with your answer I guess my thoughts on what marriage means are different than some.

 

How many thousands upon thousands of marriages across the US are only staying together "for the kids", or because the husband does not want to lose half his stuff, or because the wife likes the financial stability with the husband, or any other reason? How is that any different from your scenarios?

 

Separation of church and state

State "you need to provide birth control in health plans to privately own religious organizations"

Religious organizations to state" go pound sand". And they should, not the states place.

Now these religious organizations want to press their views on states to influences laws.

You cannot have it both ways!

 

What does that have to do with what I think marriage means and all are poor examples of marriage at best. So because marriage is no longer valued or only endured for the wrong reasons we should just say any 2 consenting adults can get married? Like I said, I have no problem with your answer and can even understand how someone could feel that way, I just don't.

 

No obviously not, but I do believe marriage was originally a Christian act and should be respected as so.

 

There are many cultures where marriage does not involve a religious ceremony. In Japan, you fill out the appropriate documents and register at a municipal office. They give you a certificate of marriage. You are then married. Of course you can have a religious ceremony if you wish, Shinto, Christian, whatever, but it doesn't matter. In Italy marriage is a civil matter, you cannot be legally married by a priest.

I do believe it would be easier to understand if people would stop bringing God into it and focus on what a marriage really is, a bond between a male and a female backed by many thousands of years of tradition. I can't believe that there are so many people who are unaware that there are many places in the world where marriage carries the same rights and responibilities as it does here with no connection to religion.

We were married initially, before a judge and 1 1/2 years later in a nuptial mass. There was no mention of God in the initial marriage although the judge allowed us to add our own vows along with the legal formula. (We didn't mention God.) The first marriage is the legal one, by the way.

Marriage is a bonding between a male and a female which goes way back thousands of years when we were living in caves. We don't know if the bride wore a white loincloth or not but the bonding was between boys and girls. This was back when men were men and didn't wear shorts. I find it interesting that the promotion of gay marriage seems to parallel the wearing of shorts by men.

As far as civil unions bearing the same rights and privileges as marriage, I understand that gays themselves do not want this. They want to be able to say they are married just like those of us who really are married.

 

So our society should not evolve?

This whole country went in the crapper when we allowed women to vote.

 

Well then I'm confused, as you said you are strongly against removing God from marriage. I'm assuming you mean the Christian God. Do you recognize religious marriages outside of Christianity as marriage?

 

You know what, neither side is going to change the other's mind on this subject and never will. There are other issues being brought into the argument that have nothing to do with the original. The fact that many marriages end in divorce has no relevance on this issue and should be an argument of its own. I have my own opinions on the gay marriage thing but those are my opinions and I will refrain from getting drawn into this whizzing contest.