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  1. Sota

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    Yeah made me think thank god I was not a product of inbreeding.
     
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    Who deleted her voicemails from her cell phone?
     
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    Who knows other than the deleter?
     
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    didnt the brother delete them? or did he just access?
     
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    The entire voicemail part just threw me off a bit... It didn't make any sense. She had a password to access her voicemails. She was killed and then voicemails were deleted.

    Maybe I'm missing something. No way I believe that the brother and friends just guessed her passwords to check phone records, access voicemail, etc.
     
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    yea I thought that was a little interesting too, definitely seemed off. for whats it worth I thought just about every other person was lying under oath in that case
     
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    His hatred of women? His ex-fiancé has said that Avery felt EVERY women owed him. Probably because his conviction for rape was based almost solely on the victims testimony. Remember, DNA testing and use in court was in it's very early stages and rarely was accepted as scientific fact back in 1985.

    In 1995, scraping from under the victims nails WAS DNA tested but that testing was unable to exclude Avery. Around this time, DNA testing was more widely accepted but still received challenges depending on how the DNA was tested. It wasn't until around 2001 that a "standard" DNA testing process was developed and then used almost exclusively for criminal trials.

    In 2002 the WI Innocence Project got a court order to retest those samples. They matched a DNA sample in the FBI data base and Avery was released.

    No idea where you came up with the fact that law enforcement "knew" for 10 years that someone else committed the rape. I feel that if there was ANY basis in fact for that statement, the Innocence Project would have listed such in their causes summary.
     
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    I assume they are talking about the phone call they received from the other jail about the guy that admitted to it when Avery was currently serving time for it. I was wondering how did that follow up go? I know the one officer said he transferred him to a detective but I dont know where it went from there.
     
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    No it was the ex-boyfriend
     
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    It didn't go anywhere that's why it is such a mess up. A guy in Brown county (presumably Gregory Allen, the guy who later is found to have assaulted Penny Beersten) got arrested and basically said hey I committed a sexual assault and there's a guy serving time for it. Well Manitowoc didn't have a plethora of people who fit that profile so it was easy to assume that this guy was confessing to the act for which Steven Avery was convicted
     
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    Does the show speed up the pace at all or is there just a ton more that happens? I'm through 2 episodes and really like it, but just wondered if the pace picks up. So far it seems like a corrupt county and group of officers who had it out for him. The initial rape case was obvious corruption and blatantly wrong. What's interesting and almost odd that makes me start doubting Avery is that new officers and county officials who didn't have anything to do with the initial rape case, and even the guy brought in from another county for the murder, seem to be making a huge effort to continue going after him when they have no stake in it. Why? Was the evidence planted and just so convincing that someone still on the inside managed to convince them that Avery was in fact the murderer? I did really feel bad for him when he was in the interrogation room without a lawyer and they were trying to coerce him to admission by using word play. For only having an IQ of 70, he sure hasn't seemed to slip up in terms of answering questions in the interrogation (at least not yet). If he did it, I would think that even a man of his simplicity would be smart enough to crush the car and not leave the key in his room with DNA on it so it just feels like evidence overkill to the point that it seems like a picture perfect "crime scene" in favor of the police and prosecutors.
     
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    My feelings exactly!!!
     
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    If that makes me a hater I will wear that name tag proudly. :biggrin:
     

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