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  1. Sota

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    What evidence supports that? , what did I miss?


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    So the cops either murdered the woman or found the car and the woman dead somewhere else and moved the two to the avery property?
     
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    The bones were moved, they found others in another location. Question where were they moved too.

    There are just too many questions that don't add up.

    Not one trace of blood anywhere, just some dna on a bullet. They were so good at cleaning the blood, they left 11 .22 casing laying around.


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    He went to jail for life, and you'll have to watch it.


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    Got to be the dumbest bunch of people on the planet, even the police, detectives and attorneys, WOW.
     
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    Worse than Fargo and that was fiction.
     
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    Just because there wasn't definitive DNA doesn't mean it wasn't there at all. Plenty of times that DnA samples are taken there aren't conclusive results.

    For example there could be different mixed Samples that would come back "too complex" to determine one donor. Or the DNA results may only be able to say "consistent with a female donor". Too many people think DNa is everywhere and easy to test for. It really isn't. Touch DNA is very hard to obtain and test. Often times its on objects or places that are touched by many people that make it hard to determine the donor.

    That show "CSI" has put way too many ideas and procedures into people's minds that aren't real. Way too much bogus stuff in people's minds from that show.

    I need to finish the series as I haven't seen it all yet though.

    Think about this. Do you think the police killed an innocent woman just to get him back in prison? Why not just kill him? What's the point of killing a 3rd party. Why not just kill him and stage it to look like a suicide that they would of investigated and been done with.
     
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    Dude,lol. There was not one drop of blood, not one.


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    Think about it, you kill a woman and park her car in your yard, when there is a car crushed right there, really?
    They clean the garage so well, and left 11 shell casings on the floor. 11 times shot and not 1 drop of blood.
    I do not believe the police killed her at all, I also don't believe e who they convicted.


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    Germ, I'm watching it now. Hope to get through by tomorrow.

    Great conversation so far. I don't know about the blood. I'll keep you posted on my thoughts though. I have no answer for that blood then. Maybe she was only hit once. Not a lot of blood that way.
     
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    Wow,,, the phone call to the sister from Steve says a lot. Little things in that. May sound simple but listen again.

    He never says he didn't kill her. Just says "how can I help"
    She says, "he didn't do it by himself" Steve says "well I didn't do it".

    He doesn't mean "I don't know what happened" he means that he didn't "physically" do it. That's him trying to play the innocent part of this. In his mind the kid did it. Kid was there at the fire. The kid cut her throat.

    Steve word for word...
    "Life in prison isn't my fault it's his fault by his statement. Why would he admit to it"

    Then says "it didn't happen over by me". Not that it didn't happen....that it didn't happen over by me. Steve knows where it happened and that is him slipping and telling the truth.

    I gotta keep watching. Just an interesting phone call. Very interesting. Gotta pay attention to the small stuff people say.
     
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    About to start watching this. I have never heard of this case nor do I have any ounce of knowledge about it or the show other than people have told me it's really good. My wife has been asking me if we could watch this over and over but I ditched Netflix so I need to ask my media junkie friend to add it to his Plex server so I can watch it for free.
     
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    It could be a slip up, but he also could be just in reference to the confession Dassey gave.

    I found thus story interesting, and this is from prior to this case exploding onto social media.
    r/MakingaMurderer
     
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    Interesting case.
     
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    Framed by the police all the way! The nephew was coerced as well...
     
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    Anyone......?????


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    Is it me or does the x-boyfriend have scratches on his hands and neck?

    He's the one who deleted the voice mails, I wonder what was on them.


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    I wonder this too, I tried to look into this and the additional evidence I found that wasn't in the film were...

    1. When he killed the cat, which was talked about briefly at the start of the show he actually doused the cat with gas then tossed it on the fire.

    2. Dassey came home the night of the murder with bleach stains on his pants, when asked what they were from he said himself and avery were cleaning the garage floor. Bleach was never found in the garage during the investigation.

    3. The trial supposidly went into more detail on how the victim was baited or requested by avery to be the one sent to the property the day of the murder.

    4. Her purse and I pod were found in a burn barrel outside his home, not the pit her remains were found in but a burn barrel.

    5. The gun the bullet was from was proved to be out of the gun hanging over his bed, it was there when the investigation began then directly into the polices possession.

    That's all I found, far from evidence proving his guilt IMO.
     
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    I'm still a firm believer that he killed her. Just the police helped the evidence along. Certain people should of been fully removed from that case at the start. It's not a staged murder or completely staged evidence.

    He did it, there wasn't great evidence and police made sure there was "good" evidence.
     

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