So when I watch sports on TV, that's not what really happens in real life? My point here is, your quip doesn't always apply. Just because it WAS made into a documentary doesn't mean he did do it. So it's a pointless sentiment.
He is saying it's simply biased and you didn't get all the info. I have read a bit about the case and the parts and evidence that was left out the "documentary" (use that term loosely with this series). I firmly believe that he killed that girl. I believe that Dassey also had a part in it as well. Dassey was severely downplaying the role with the "I don't remember" , "I made that up" answers. If for some whatever reason it wasn't Steven Avery then it would have to be a family member that lives on that property.
Watching sports on TV is live as it happens..... If you can't see the difference I can't help you. And you may be right, my personal real life experience may not ALWAYS apply. However I'm willing to bet that it apples 99% of the time and I wi take those odds on me being right. The point of them taking this story to TV is to create dought within the viewers. Otherwise no one would have even heard about it. It appears that they did just that. All you have to do is watch the 6:00 news. They report on the day's events. However they put there spin on it so you view it a certain way. Watch a story on Fox News ,then watch the exact same story on CNN. You will come away with two different opinions on what really happened.
Watching real life sports is exactly the same, one set fans states it was a foul, the other states it was not. They will both fight to the death to prove they are right. This is the same deal, one set sees it their way, they other sees it their way also. It's not a big deal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I will give you the "he said, she said" live sports comparison. But you actually see the sports play when it happens. You didn't witness the murder. You can only rely on the evidence of the crime. Totally different that a real live sport.
Well, exactly, it's how we view the evidence, based on what we think happened. FYI being a ref, fans my be there to witness the game, but even when they see live, they don't. They see what they wanna see. Being a ref has taught me that, an I was guilty of this myself when watching sports. My kid never fouls, the other team plays dirty, not ours. We see what we want to see. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I understand what you mean I didn't mean for it to sound disrespectful so sorry if that's how it seemed. But, it goes both ways, if I were to use that same sentiment in my favor I would expect someone to say it was pointless, because it kinda is. We see what we want to see, believe what we want to believe. None of us were there to see her murder so we can only go based on personal opinion. Just because it was reported/documented in one way doesn't mean she wasn't murdered, but it also doesn't mean that he actually committed the murder. The facts we have are: She was murdered.
You think the cops killed her, cut up her body, burned the body and buried the body just for frame Avery?
I think Avery's sister's husband and the elder Dassey boy killed her and burned her. Additionally, I think because the cops had their mind made up that it was Avery that they altered evidence to pin it on Avery, whether that's because they couldn't figure out who truly did it or they just had it out for Avery I don't know. I don't think all cops involved in the case were involved in framing Avery, I think it was officer Lenk, who was mysteriously always around the day more evidence was found, and a few who were around with Avery's initial rape case from 1985 who are responsible for altering things. That's just my opinion, of course.
That is one of the options the story line wants people to think, but the only reason there is to support that thought is because they basically alibied each other. They would have had to catch her once she left, killed her someplace else, and gone along with the police to not only frame Avery but the younger Dassey also. I don't think those two did it themselves, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were not also involved with Avery and the younger brother.
Which could very easily be true. Scott and the elder Dassey brother didn't have to help convince the police at all if the police already thought Avery did it and if they wanted him to be the killer. Of course Scott and the elder Dassey brother could have easily stopped her - they were off going hunting as they admitted. Also, Scott was the only person out of all the "suspects" who was even in a vehicle around the time she was last seen. The bus driver already stated that Scott and the elder Dassey brother's timeline was an hour off from what they told police. So there is more there than just they were each other's alibi. I pose this question, why did Avery put her in the trunk of her own vehicle if he killed her in his trailer or garage and then burned her in a burn pile which is in between his trailer and garage? What purpose would he have to put her there, to drive her a whole 20 feet? That makes zero sense. It's obvious she left his trailer after taking pictures, someone went after her in a vehicle, killed her, and then drove her in her own vehicle back to the junk yard. That means someone had to drive that vehicle back as well as someone else had to drive her vehicle back with her in it. That's most likely 2 people.
If the other two were involved in trying to frame Avery, I would have expected them to have the time line correct in their stories. If I had to guess on loading the body in the vehicle was because it was for one of two reasons. 1. There wasn't a fire going at the time of the murder so he needed to put the body somewhere while they cleaned up any mess and also got a fire going hot enough to destroy the body quickly without anybody else seeing. 2. He didn't burn the body immediately at the house/garage site. Since there was her burned remains located at three locations, the garage site, the burn barrel and a spot in the salvage yard. I would guess they put her in the car and stashed her in the salvage yard, brought the burn barrel and burned her than brought the barrel back and dumped it with the ashes from bon fires not thinking they would be able to identify her remains in all the mixed ashes.
Like I said, I don't think they had any involvement in framing Avery, I think the cops did all that. Once the cops were "onto" Avery, Scott and elder Dassey just let it be since they realized they weren't going to get caught. Their stories didn't match nor did their timeline match what actually happened according to Brandon Dassey's bus driver who always arrived at the Avery's within a 10 minute window each day. She had no stake in the game yet she proved that they lied to the cops in their statements. Additionally, if they didn't have any involvement and went hunting like they claimed, that would have left Brandon Dassey and Avery alone with the body and all the time to get the fire going and burn the body, which means there would have been no reason to keep it packed in the back of her car. Also, that burn barrel site was behind the Dassey's house. If Brandon and Avery did it, why would they have burned part of the body in the barrel behind the Dassey's house when they had a huge bon fire? Makes no sense. I think the single burn site was the burn barrel and the other two were spots the bones were moved to.
In order for Avery to think he had plenty of time, you are assuming he knew what everybody else was doing. His sister didn't get home that much later herself. If Tadych and Bobby dassey did it. Did they burn the body in the barrel of was that the police? And dump it at Steven's or was that the police? If the police wanted to frame him, all they needed to do was leave the vehicle and key on the property, with his blood and sweat.
I just can't believe anyone in the whole world think these police officers are crooked and "framed" Avery. I can't believe you could even think these officers stages the crime scenes!
As far as her blood in the car. He stashed her body in the back of the car before burning her and put it in the garage or near the garage. He had to hide her body and the car the best he could until he could burn her.
