Only saw two deer in 4 days. I shot at a doe at 10 yds. Shoulder hit. The Rage 2 blade only partially opened and acted as a blocker from the full broad head and arrow passing into and through the deer. Only got about 1 inch of penetration. Needles to say the deer ran off. Broad head bent too. Second time this has happened in 2 years. My experiment with expandable a is now over. Back to my trusty WASP 3 blade broad heads for next season.