Nobody can state that for a fact. Only McQueary knows the truth to that statement. And right now, I'm not sure I would believe anything he said.
Thats how both McQueary and Joe said it went down. McQueary has waffled on that story since taking a lot of scrutiny, so I guess we'll see. There are a lot of unknown facts (to the public) in this investigation so far. Thats why I don't understand why so many are ready to crucify people already.
They both said it. Doesnt make it the truth. McQueary wasnt going to throw a legend under the bus. I am sure he was a worshiper. I think a lot of people are looking for heads to roll because it involves unthinkable damage to children. The most horrid of crimes. And I think it might be a bit short sighted to think that people close to Sandusky were totally in the dark about his actions when they were apparently so numerous. I remain a skeptic and hope to be proven wrong. That way all the faithful followers can breath easy and repolish the legend.
Its working both ways here. The only reason his name is being mentioned so much is because of who he is. If all the names in this investigation worked for a local Walmart, and not PSU, the only person anyone would care about it Sandusky.
I think that's what most of the faithful dont get. To most folks, there really is no difference. PSU is just a school and Paterno is just a football coach. He could have been the Walmart greeter for all I care. Heck, the greeter at Walmart might have enjoyed success at things much more important than football. Blasphemy? To some....lol.
What Joe Paterno got from McQuerry was a story, a DAY AFTER the alleged incident. McQuerry allegedly saw this happen and WENT HOME afterwards, not reporting it to anyone. The story he gave to Paterno was watered down from what he now claims. Paterno passed it on to his superiors. What happened at the meeting between McQuerry and his superiors? Who knows? Afterwards, Sandusky wasn't fired, and McQuerry continued to work with the person he claimed committed this crime for 9 years! If your alarms aren't going off, you need to have your circuit breakers checked. Any reasonable adult who saw a crime like that would: 1. stop the crime from continuing; 2. call the authorities (police); and 3. protect the child until authorities arrive. McQuerry did none of these. He went home and then met with Paterno at his home the next day. People said that McQuerry continued to work there because he was protected under the whistle blower law. Let me ask you this, if you saw a child get raped at work and told your superiors and they did nothing, would you continue to work there? If Sandusky is found guilty (innocent until proven beyond reasonable doubt), then there are others who need to be held accountable. Personally, I rank them: 1. McQuerry - He was the witness of the crime who failed to stop it and failed to call the police. In one of his stories, he claims a family friend advised him that he need not do that because he reported it to Paterno. BS!; 2. The 3 staff at Penn State who met with McQuerry after Paterno reported it to them. Once the accusation was made, they should have called the police; and 3. Paterno (in hindsight) should have called the police and then reported it to the VP, Atheletic Director, and the other person.
For those who wanted Paterno's head, etc., let me ask you this. IF something happens and Sandusky is acquitted, what will be your opinion of Paterno and everyone else then? I surely don't want this to happen, but hey, if OJ can get away with murder, its entirely plausible that Sandusky could walk. If that were to happen, the outcry for the board of trustees to step down will be immense. They made very fast, unwarrented decisions and fired a lot of people due to the pressure being felt from the media. Will your opinion be like that of OJ. He got away with it, he should still rot in h@ll, etc.? I realize this is an entirely different set of circumstances and drawing a comparison to OJ isn't really accurate. But if you can still hold that opinion of someone who had nothing to do with the crimes being committed, then IMHO, you are simply playing judge, jury and executioner in the court of public opinion. fletch, I do agree with your statement about PSU just being another school and Paterno is just the football coach. However, being from and living in the State College area my whole life, going to school and working at Penn State, Paterno was more than just a football coach here. He put his whole life into this university, from helping all of the students to donating most of what he made back to the university. I've met Paterno, several times, while walking around campus during the day and had a few light hearted conversations with the man. He was the real deal. I've been saying for a while now that the biggest downfall of JoePa, was he own image. He literally was the face of Penn State and to some degree, the most powerful man on campus. That is Penn State's problem. I guess that's what spending your entire life, some 60 years, at one place will do. This university has lost its identity now, and is struggling to come to grips with the whole Sandusky deal. Penn State will never be the same. Our only hope is that once the dust settles and a new era of PSU, not just football, begins, PSU will once again be recognized for being one the top academic universities in the country, with the largest alumni base and one that graduates it student athletes at a higher rate than any other institution in the country, not be remembered for the events that have transpired. Its a damn shame the way he went out and many, many here are hoping that the trial sheds light on what really happened and why it was handled the way it was. I do not believe for one moment this was in any way shape or form a cover up on his behalf. However, I will say this. IF we learn later that there was a cover up and Paterno was in the middle of it, I will certainly change my opinion and stance on the situation. I have no time of child molesters or their supporters.
I agree, if he knew more. Based on the information we are being told he had, he did more than the average person.
Sorry Vito, something that big, and with him having that much pull on campus, you follow up on it. I do find it very curious why the parents of these kids never really came forward until MUCH later. I'm assuming if your or my child had been involved, someones nuts would have been in a vise until some satisfactory conclusion had been reached.
I just don't buy it, not with what Joe is alleged to have known. Lets review since everyone seems to think Joe read the 2011 Grand Jury report back in 2001, and chose to ignore it. - He's told very vague information about what a grad assistant thinks he saw. An incident that involves one of his best friends. - Joe tells his superior, although most people would probably at least go to their best friend first to get his side. This is where I think he did more than most would. - His superiors tell Joe it is being handled. - Joe is told it all checked out and no charges are being filed. - Sandusky admits it was probably not a great idea, and promises not to make the same mistake (using the same shower as a boy). Thats it. So you guys are going to try and say, based off that info, that you are now going to go to the police and tell them you think your best friend is a child rapist? C'mon. Some times you guys are so full of it, its hard for me to tell if you are joking. That is the information we know. We could very well find out there is more. Joe may have stood look-out in the hallway outside the showers. Until we know that, I won't make speculations.
Gotta love Scripture taken out of context by the pot calling the kettles black .... sorry JZ, but a man can do more than anyone for people and when he does or does not do something he should to this magnitude, the previous does not and should not matter....
He's a football coach. The issue is people put joe on a pedestal and viewed him as more than a football coach.He was a football coach , he made a bad choice and paid the price for it.
