Legal vs. Illegal "Would you shoot or not"

Ive answered all your questions.

 

Ha ha I think a lot of people would do the exact same with the powerball.

Wolvenkinde. I'm not saying it bad I guess for me it's jus an annoyance and in the past as caused unwanted conflict with some of the people we've had around us. Especially with the way ground changes hands and people not really knowing what their boundaries actually are. Idk pretty much was jus throwing it out there since it seemed to be getting brought up a lot.

 

This thread has become a little too aggressive on both sides. Opinions are opinions. They are not facts or the law. Everyone knows that if you chose to shoot early or late that is still against the law and can be considered poaching.

I still stick by if it is light enough to shoot I will shoot. I'm choosing if I unknowingly break the law, then I'm ok with that. (Mainly because I don't check my watch before drawing and don't feel the need to). If by doing that I break the law I'm completely fine with that. I also don't check my time after I shoot a deer whether it is noon or 5:30 if I ever shot a record buck. That is the last thing going through my brain at that moment. I'm very confident that I'm staying within that law already by using light and my best judgement. Not knowing doesn't make a wrong a right, but I'm just not that concerned about this law.

In a similar law that my dad and I have been asking about is whether or not it is legal to run UTV's on roads in Iowa. (Mainly gravel roads) My dad just purchased a UTV. Each state is different. We have two farms that are 12 miles apart. People drive on gravel roads all the time around here with ATV or UTV's. What we have found so far is that it sounds like farmers are allowed to travel farms, but other than that it isn't legal. I know Minnesota is legal to do this except major highways. This is a law that I will knowingly not follow. We might have a bag of seed or grain in the back of UTV for farm purposes at all times to justify the law.

I absolutely choose which laws to follow. I try to follow most game laws and other laws. I was going to say I try to follow every game law, but I guess that wouldn't be true. I understand that choosing which laws to follow is a scary thing for our society and that is why laws are in force.

Just for fun. Read some of the craziest laws that still exist in link below so we can get away from the speeding thing. Some of these are hilarious. Hopefully this link doesn't create a ton of posts on crazy what if's, but it has been entertaining hearing people's views on both sides.

http://www.legalzoom.com/us-law/more-us-law/top-craziest-laws-still

 

scarps23 I thought that post was great! Thanks, great addition to the thread. Well thought out and not aggressive at all....wish my opinion came across more like your's did at times. :D

 

Please reference the post number because I have missed it then.

Actually, forget it, we both know there is no post number. You think it is okay to pick and choose which game laws should be followed and I struggle with understanding how someone could justify that to themselves. We will just leave it at that.

 

I am just glad I have been hunting my *** off lately and haven't had time to get involved in some of these threads

 

I'm about to hand out awards for all these entertaining threads lately.

 

Wait for at least an hour after legal shooting time so everybody can get here to see the awards.

 

Seriously? Wow that really stinks! Sounds like a good thread poll rising for Tyni.

You just shot a buck... your neighbor is a B***H*** and you know he won't allow you access to recover your deer but there is no way he would know if you did. What do you do?

I am sure Dan will be delighted

 

Not interested in another poll That'd be an easy call for me, I'd call CO explain situation see if he'd attempt to convince the landowner. If not, no deer is worth me risking trespassing violations amongst other violations I'm sure they could come up with.

 

They CO here has in a couple instances gone to a neighboring landowner and told them that if they are not going to go track a deer and recover it AND tag it themselves, then he is going onto the land with the hunter/shooters help to track and recover that deer. We are lucky in that our neighbors are fine with us tracking wonded deer onto thier property and for the most part almost all landowners up here are that way - it's just a select few that are determined to be 'whatever you want to call thems'...and as for the trespassers, shooting deer and tracking on our lands - well if they get caught, they get prosecuted often enough, and the deer get confiscated.
BTW - on my way back in from camp last night(I stopped hunting at end of shooting hours) with the snow and clear skies it was easy enough to see 70-80 yards to shoot a deer - I came up behind a pickup with 2 "hunters" creeping along and road hunting after shooting hours with thier headlights off(reflects off trees so you can't see deer as far into the woods). If I had cell service or could see thier plates(coverd with snow) I would have reported them but I was not going to stop them and risk an armed conflict...also the CO would have prob'ly been a minimum of 1/2 hour away 15 minutes later when back in to service coverage and no telling where they may have gotten to by the time he arrived....also nearly impossible to prove unless he caught them actively shining and/or with an uncased gun. This ticks me off the most - guys so stinkin lazy and giving a $#!+ less about whose property they are shooting on(no doubt they weren't watching for or cared about the painted property lines between public and private lands), or other hunters and camps in the area.

 

Didn't think you would be.

 

I would call my local DNR agent, they WILL get you the permission you need to track the animal regaurdless of what the neighbor wants. Proba ly going to piss off the neighbor though

 

I am just joking here...

While he's there, you can tell him what time you actually shot the deer.

 

Actually, in WI that's not true. My buddy is a sheriff's deputy here in WI and they get calls on this once in awhile. He says that all they can do is talk to the landowner and if they say no, then its game over. Same with the CO.

You guys can crucify me all you want, but if I know I made a lethal hit on a deer and I knew it was dead less than 100 yards into the neighbors property, I'm getting that deer. If I know for a fact that they will not grant permission, I won't even talk to them. Sorry, but intentionally wasting an animal/natural resource is a hell of a lot bigger deal to me than walking on a piece of property for a few minutes.

If you go and ask a landowner permission to recover an animal and they say no, they should be charged with Wanton waste.

 

Local sheriff or DNR? DNR will absolutely get you the access you need.

 

Just threw that out there for guys who dont know what to do in that situation

 

It is the same here in MD. The landowner can refuse and there is nothing DNR or the police can do.

 

According to him, nope. The CO cannot get you on the land either. If the landowner says no, its game over. I would like to think I'm wrong though. Got a link?

 

Don't know about WI but, like I said, not true here in MD.