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Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Reese, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. Reese

    Reese Weekend Warrior

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    In a spin off on the original post. Some have admited of not lookin at their watch. Now in sayin this, with a bow some would make the shot after they know its not legal, but still ethical ( eg being able to see sight pins and target).
    Question is, IF you were using a rifle with a highpower scope ( which we all know gathers light better than the human eye) WOULD you still take that shot? Is that ethical? obviously not legal. Argument would be what is the difference, aside from many other people being able to hear the report of the shot.
    Where do you stand?
    Reese
    and yes i know this is a bowhunting forum.
     
  2. GMMAT

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    Calrification (for me, personally)......I don't look at my watch OR keep up with the posted times. I wouldn't "know" (whetehr it was past time, or not). I just rely on "common sense".....and what I strongly feel is the intent of the law.

    Can't answer your hypothetical. Haven't shot a gun at a big game animal in almost 15yrs. Back then, though? Yeah (no scope....and a scatter gun)....back then....I probably followed the same "logic".
     
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    I probably wouldn't. I'm kind of a "chicken" when it comes to breaking laws as serious as something that can be classified as poaching which can result in me losing my license. Although the nice thing with where I hunt is that we are so close to the mountains that before the legal shooting light ends, it is too dark that we can't take a ethical shot so I don't really have to face that temptation.
     
  4. Reese

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    Not asking hypothetical. What is the difference, really, shooting a bow after "legal shooting light" and shooting a rifle ( which would have more light gathering characteristics)
    One just carries a greater chance of pushing the grey area and getting caught.
    Agree? or disagree?
     
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    I think I stated I didn't see a difference (or, I meant to). Not sure what's unclear.
     
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    bow, shotgun, rifle, or even rpg (if it was legal) ill take a shot if i can see..... i have always hunted until i can not clearly take a shot with confidence... i will never take an unsafe shot that may just wound an animal. no matter what game i am hunting at any given time it is to kill and not just for the fun of shooting.
     
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    just as i said in the other post, NO, i try my best not to do anything to hurt my hunting future, or hurt hunting and fellow hunters as a whole
     
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    :confused: Even after legal shooting light? with a high powered scope with "light gathering characteristics".....?
    Define confidence.....and or logic.....( good luck on the 2nd one ) there are many variations to this :p not sure whats legal or ethical
     
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    define legal shooting light?? the time specified?? yes technically.. in many hunting scenarios you are unable to shoot 15-20 before that legal specified time due to light but it is still legal, not smart though. ... as for confidence if i can clearly see i will take the shot, not if i can just see the animal, but if i can clearly see the projected point of impact.. i, and i would assume the majority, will never just at the silhouette of an animal no matter what the light conditions are.
    As for logic, i believe it to be very logical to take a shot that you are confident in taking with the intentions of killing an animal (though im sure some will disagree)
     
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    As quoted in the other post.....full moon, snow on the ground and no leaves. One "could" technically shoot quite a time after "legal" light has been determined by the law, however personally I believe that reprocussions from a gunshot being reported at that time would be far greater than from a "arrow" being released at such said time.
    Just an observation :rolleyes:
     
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    I understand your question and there is no doubt people think different about pushing the gray area with a gun in their hand rather than a bow. That's why I asked in the other thread if you knew a GW was sitting in a tree watching you bowhunt would you still take the shot before or after legal hours? Didn't get too many answers.
     
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    Kinda funny that no one really answered that question! :rolleyes: But, I think we already knew the answer! :D
     
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    How's this for an answer..............

    I've hunted with my GW. I didn't check my watch (AM or PM). I had an arrow nocked when I got in the stand (AM) and I had one on the string, until I could no longer see to make an ethical shot in the PM.

    What's so hard to digest, here? Nobody's hiding from anything.....lol.
     
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    I drove to my hunting land with my buddy who is a cop. I was going 8mph over the speed limit. He didn't give me a ticket.
     
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    Something must be..... because no one is answering a simple yes or no question either. ....LOL!
     
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    It's a poorly stated question, Joe. Here's a yes/no for ya....

    Do your in-laws know you hide money from your wife?

    Simple enough, huh?

    I don't get it....the GW IS/WAS in the tree....lol. Yes! I'd have shot (if I had an ethical shot). I didn't/don't get hung up on watching my clock.
     
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    Is it really that hard to comprehend this is the time slot you are can shoot a game in. This other time slot is when you cannot shoot game in.

    I always thought it was pretty simple:)
     

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