Late Season Layering

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by bossbucks25, Dec 14, 2016.

  1. bossbucks25

    bossbucks25 Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2010
    Posts:
    416
    Likes Received:
    2
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Central WI
    I went bow hunting last night here in Central Wisconsin. With wind chill it was somewhere around -15 to -20. I layered up with 6 layers on top and bottom. I froze, I barely made it 2 hours. Has anyone had any luck staying warm with a certain system layering? Otherwise what is the best way to stay warm on stand?
     
  2. Captn Kirk

    Captn Kirk Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2013
    Posts:
    411
    Likes Received:
    169
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fredericksburg VA
    Heater Body Suit I layered for years and froze I got this sleeping bag with legs And it works great. It will not be the answer for a jump up snap shot but most bow hunting is not that and it dose take up room in the stand. Last week it was 23 and I had my 40 deg.setup on and the HBS warm as toast.
     
  3. Marauder

    Marauder Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2011
    Posts:
    2,783
    Likes Received:
    734
    Dislikes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Tomahawk, WI
    Bossbucks what kind of layers, boots, gloves, etc. were you using?
     
  4. Planopurist

    Planopurist Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2016
    Posts:
    284
    Likes Received:
    76
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Exactly why I'd rather kill them in October....in Texas!



    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  5. Longdraw

    Longdraw Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2011
    Posts:
    791
    Likes Received:
    350
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Dupage CO. IL
    I've considered an old sleeping bag up to my armpits, throw a couple hand/foot warmers inside, and see if that worked.
     
  6. remmett70

    remmett70 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2015
    Posts:
    2,421
    Likes Received:
    394
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Rothschild, WI
    6 layers seems excessive. More is not always better. Most I've gone is 4, base, mid and outer, with the 4th being a wind break inside of the outer layer. Add toe warmers, and hand warmers, facemask that covers my nose and cheeks. Pretty much the only skin you will see is around my eyes.

    The layers have to be sized right though, get to tight and they don't work right because they lose the air space they need to keep you warm.

    I am thinking of investing in a heater suit, I do the same concept during rifle season in my box blind with a sleeping bag up past my waist. That way I don't need extra layers on my lower body.
     
  7. Hillbilly Jedi

    Hillbilly Jedi Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2014
    Posts:
    2,400
    Likes Received:
    559
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Northern CA, United States
    Kill them in August in California and you can wear flip flops and board shorts!
     
  8. MGH_PA

    MGH_PA Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Posts:
    10,480
    Likes Received:
    325
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cogan Station, PA
    In those temps, for me anyways, I would be looking into a heater body suit. I tend to run colder than most.

    Heck, I need good bases, a fanatic hoody, shacket, and then the Fanatic bibs/jacket just to survive teens here:)
     
  9. Hillbilly Jedi

    Hillbilly Jedi Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2014
    Posts:
    2,400
    Likes Received:
    559
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Northern CA, United States
    Being where I'm from, I'd be in a ground blind with a heater. I was when I was in Canada last month. As Remmett said, layering with the right sizes is key. You need small gaps between layers for you body to warm up the air in between the layers. Snow suits work well too. Just don't end up looking like Ralphie's little brother from A Christmas Story.
     
  10. kurveball18

    kurveball18 Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2014
    Posts:
    1,212
    Likes Received:
    93
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    My grandma does alot of sewing. I wonder if making a heater body suit is something possible?
     
  11. bossbucks25

    bossbucks25 Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2010
    Posts:
    416
    Likes Received:
    2
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Central WI
    My layers are, cabelas polar power dry base layers, long johns, sweater, wool lined hoody, scent lok early jacket, and full season jacket. bottom, is base layer, long john, 2 pairs of sweatpants, and 2 scent lok layers. Cant afford a heater suit this year. I heard fleece is a great option after the base layer. I don't truly have outerwear other than my all season scentlok jacket.
     
  12. Riverduck11

    Riverduck11 Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2015
    Posts:
    183
    Likes Received:
    40
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Depending on what material your base layer is, that may be your problem. I will hunt till temps are a little warmer than you described, but still down in the single digits. I also use 6 layers as below.

    Under Armour Compression
    Thin Silk
    Thin wool sweater
    Fleece Jacket
    Thin Colombia heat retention jacket
    Scentlok savanah coveralls

    While 6 layers sounds like a lot, I am very mobile in that set up
     
  13. KjKlump

    KjKlump Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2013
    Posts:
    850
    Likes Received:
    2
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fenton,MO.
    Yeah if it's too tight you might just as well have one layer on.
    I used to not be able to take cold, granted my temps aren't what you have. Same as you'd probably melt during our summer.
    I've managed to stay out in temps lower than previous years by doing a few key things.
    Stop the wind with a shell layer or you might as well stay home.
    Conduction from that cold metal stand is a fast way to beat me, I use boot blankets and have some friends who take a piece of carpet to lay on their stand for the same purpose.
    The amount of heat you can gain from a good vest without hindering your ability to draw is awesome.
    Grandma always said wear a hat, cover your noodle good.
    I also put the sticking hot hands on the inside of my legs, over the kidneys and on the back of my neck.
    I'll use a wicking layer, and insulation layer or two and the shell.
    Also eat something hearty before going out and bring something to keep the fire going.
    I still get cold sometimes, but not chase me out of the stand cold.
     
  14. Fitz

    Fitz Legendary Woodsman

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2008
    Posts:
    19,215
    Likes Received:
    447
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Ely, MN
    My fall hunting clothes and the HBS. That thing is great. I hated my old warm weather stuff because it was horrible to shoot with it all on.
     
  15. OkieArrowSlinger

    OkieArrowSlinger Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Posts:
    1,078
    Likes Received:
    2,340
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Central OK
    Has anybody ever seen the heater body suits go on sale? I've heard great things about them but man they are not cheap! I'm guessing that the price is what it is since you pretty much can only purchase them from their website.
     
  16. Marauder

    Marauder Die Hard Bowhunter

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2011
    Posts:
    2,783
    Likes Received:
    734
    Dislikes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Tomahawk, WI
    When you got to your blind were you pretty sweated up? If you end up overheating to the stand and sweat that'll really ruin your hunt quickly. Especially with the Wisconsin temps.
     
  17. bossbucks25

    bossbucks25 Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2010
    Posts:
    416
    Likes Received:
    2
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Central WI
    I was comfortable on the walk, wasn't sweating. I am going to pull out a layer that was somewhat tight, and replace it with a thick fleece. I am hunting Sunday again, will try a little different system of layering and see how that works.
     
  18. MnMoose

    MnMoose Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2014
    Posts:
    4,005
    Likes Received:
    281
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    West Central MN
    I went out last weekend and it was 0 degrees, and I stayed warm throughout the evening hunt with this setup:

    Base Layers:
    Two sets of Merino Wool long underwear (Top and Bottom)
    Merino Wool Socks

    Mid Layers:
    Fleece Long sleeve T
    Sitka Kelvin Lite Vest
    Lost Camo Hoodie
    Sitka Mountain or Timberline pants

    Outer Layers:
    Danner Pronghorn 1600s
    Fleece Pants (Almost like sweats)
    Sitka Jetstream Jacket
    Sitka Gloves
    Sitka Beanie
    White Camo Stocking hat

    Hand warmers in pockets and boots.

    My face got cold, but that is expected as I didn't have anything covering it.


    Has Anyone ever shot a deer while using a body heater suit? I just cant see that working out, especially on late season deer that have been pressured...
     
  19. soccerdan90

    soccerdan90 Grizzled Veteran

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2010
    Posts:
    5,679
    Likes Received:
    1,235
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Oskaloosa Iowa
    I've drawn back on a few just never released the arrow. Have killed some with a gun using my body suit tho. They are amazing!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  20. TKP030

    TKP030 Weekend Warrior

    Joined:
    May 12, 2015
    Posts:
    575
    Likes Received:
    147
    Dislikes Received:
    1
    Location:
    North Dakota
    Last year i used
    1) UA 4.0 (Top & Bottom)
    2) UA Fleece base layer (Top & Bottom)
    3) UA Late season (Top & Bottom)

    with muck artic boots and wool socks and that got me threw the 0 degree temp sit i shot my deer with, dont know what the wind chill was that day. i like it because i dont feel like puffy marshmallow while not being tight on the layers and still have good motion. this year i will be adding first light mid weight to go between 2 and 3 to add a little better
     

Share This Page