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Landowner calls off the track

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by Old West, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Skywalker

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    I will admit to being selfish, I have no problems with that. I own 40 acres that I worked hard to pay for, and spend hours and hours and dollars and dollars to try and manage and make it the most attractive area it can be. I expect hunters that are hunting adjacent lands to me to contact me if they need to track on my property and I will grant permission, but most likely I will also help them with the track. I don't really let other people hunt on my property(with a couple exceptions). I'm just realistic about how many people can effectively hunt the property without doing too much harm and the reality is that one person hunting is pretty much it's capacity. So, you see, I'm plenty selfish but at least I'm selfish in a way that doesn't put me in position to completely break someones heart.
     
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  2. LittleChief

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    It's "dogpiling", and men who actually like being dogpiled usually have glitter in their beards this time of year.
     
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  3. fletch920

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    You forgot about the Oompa Loompas.

    You quit denying folks their deer! And quit denying the fact that we all answered your question several times, it's very child-like. :wave:
     
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    I am a gun hunter and bowhunter. I share a camp with a group of gun hunters who put in a HUGE amount of work every year to get ready for the season. They are all also excellent deer hunters and conservationists.
     
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  5. bucksnbears

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    Skywalker . Good honest answer!
    Little chief, you're a cool dude!
    As for Fletch, no, you did not answer the question.
    Keep ass- kissing and giving out the " likes".:hail:
     
  6. JakeD

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    I own 170 acres with my two brothers. We just got it and have a lot of work to do, which includes putting some areas off limits. That being said, if a neighbor shot a deer and it went into one of those areas, I would be happy to help them get it. It's the right thing to do. I don't care if it hurts my chances at a mature buck. I'd rather a deer not go to waste than be a selfish ****. And any of you guys that think a buck will stay in your little sanctuary all the time need to think again. It's crazy to believe that going one time into your sanctuary is going to blow a deer out for good.
     
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  7. fletch920

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    I did answer. It's the same, you go get the freaking deer. Your comprehension skills must score as low as your ethics. If you read me as an ass-kisser than you are a bigger tool than I gave you credit for. And I scored you pretty high on the tool scale. Like, Booner level. You deny people of their deer, and you deny yourself of the truth. I'm done playing your ignorant game. Enjoy crushing dreams.
     
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  8. fletch920

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    As a final note, you are the only person here that would deny someone the opportunity to retrieve their deer. Think about that for a while. Then cast your stones.
     
  9. bucksnbears

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    Happy Thanksgiving guys!

    I'm gonna go shoot some coyotes.
     
  10. Sota

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    Do not go near the sanctuary you will ruin next years hunting.
     
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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    If you gave me the following options I'd choose option 2 all day long...

    Option 1-have a darn good private land spot to hunt, where I have to follow every darn rule the landowner/friend tells me, which includes butt plugging me and not allowing me to track a hard earned buck OR

    Option 2-hunt a below average public land spot where I can float around and have an adventure free of bs like not allowing me to track a buck that I worked so hard to shoot.
     
  12. w33kender

    w33kender Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Help/Let the guy find his deer. Honest answer. IDGAF if it upsets my one hunt of the year. Or a chance at a 140. You'd be surprised how good deeds come back around. Esp. in the hunting community.
     
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    w33kender Die Hard Bowhunter

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    a lot of truth here, folks.
     
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    Same exact scenario. I have 22 acres with the entire center being a sanctuary. The "East" neighboring parcel exclusively hunts a tower box blind (they actually "hot seat" the blind by allowing anyone to hunt it), mere feet from my boundary which is to their west where a natural funnel limits where deer can cross the river from my north to my south acreage - and takes several deer annually as self admitted (Freudian slip of the tongue from the father) as the deer reportedly cross over onto theirs.
    No doubt when I'm not there they actively shoot onto my property, as proven by pictures I've taken of their bait piles, trail cams and gut piles well within my property. Would I let him recover deer if he asked - reluctantly - yes -but I will be there if and when they ever ask, (which is unlikely unless my vehicle is parked at my cabin) within 2 hours as that's how long it takes me to get to my property.
    I deplore wanton waste, but am actually at a crossroads as to whether or not I'm going to let this continue. The biggest mistake - and all readers take heed - was meeting the neighbors and befriending the elderly patriarch. Kindness always gets interpreted as weakness when it comes to hunting and property.
    Its the rest of his entourage that show and display a complete lack of respect for our shared boundary and my acreage. My uncle previously owned this parcel and stated that numerous trespassers have been observed over the years and due to his age there was nothing much he could do about it. Hindsight being 20/20, after seeing their blind(s), I wish I would have immediately cattle fenced the property and topped it with double barbed wire - but again - initially I wanted to be the "nice guy", and establish neighborly camaraderie - huge mistake!!!!!!!
     
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    Excellent advice!!!! Or, they ask for permission to track, if necessary, beforehand, for any possible future wounding of an animal that runs onto your property - but misinterpret or expand your consent to do so - as open season to now shooting over your boundaries/fence lines onto your property, actively scouting and hunting your land and then recovering their subsequent illegal, trespassed, poached deer - and if caught, which is unlikely, can claim its all a misunderstanding. Be very specific when granting permission to track, and be present if possible to help and/or investigate!!!!! Insist - at a minimum - that a phone call must always precede any tracking. We've been burnt too many times by unethical hunters not revealing their full intentions - "Can I coyote hunt in January" - somehow - gets misinterpreted as "but you gave me (or - "us" - permission to hunt your land" - in October and November. My Dad had 120 acres and we've ran into these scams repeatedly for over 50 years.
     
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    Happy Thanksgiving guys
    Coyotes didn't cooperate today. Was a lovely day here:rock:
     
  17. Jonathan Barlar

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    In Illinois a game warden cannot go into private property to recover an animal for someone. They must have the landowners permission.
    They can only entertain the property if they have reason to suspect illegal activity or if they see someone hunting & want to check their license/permits.
     
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    That's
    Thats what I thought but wasn't quite sure

    Thanks
     

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