Go look in your closet and tell me what percentage of your textiles (hats, pants, shirts, socks, etc.) are made in the USA. Yeah, we buy blank shirts from Gildan, J America, Next Level and other companies that are made overseas. Then they're decorated in the USA by American workers and sold by an American business who pays employees, taxes, benefits and contributes to the American economy. On a side note, I checked all of our hats and shirts and didn't find any made in China. I found Honduras, Nicaragua and Taiwan though. On the contrary companies that counterfeit products and sell them on eBay and Amazon do not pay American taxes, do not employ American workers or contribute to our economy. They run their business by reaping the hard work put in by American businesses who design, prototype, test, market, assemble, package, sell, ship and support their products. All at a cost. These businesses have employees to pay, taxes to pay, infrastruture to build and maintain, etc. Then they have to sell the product to a dealer or a store at a wholesale price so that dealer can then in turn sell it to the consumer so he too can pay his taxes, employees and make a living wage. The counterfeit company has zero cost other than whatever it takes them to reverse-engineer the product, spin up some tooling and start making them. All of the sales of said counterfeit product go straight back to the counterfeit company with 0% of it paying for all the work that went into it. This puts at jeopardy the companies that pour their blood, sweat, tears and money into product development. We're talking apples and oranges here. But I'm assuming you already knew that since you just like to take shots at us whenever it's convenient for you.
Definitely a touchy subject when designs are being stolen and then marketed to be the same with lower cost. If price is the concern for a broadhead I'd recommend looking at several other great broadheads that are priced lower such as fixed blade.
Does someone know the answer to this question. Specific to MoKasi and the link Justin posted, are they knock-offs (which could be legal or illegal) or are they illegal...based on patent infringements, etc? I purchased these last year and did not inquire if they were illegal based on infringements. Just assumed it was a legal, knock-off. My purchase was not for shooting at deer...as I buy authorized Rage broadheads for that.
I can't be the only one to find some humor in a guy on a pro-American rant, who sells imports from another country... relax
I looked them up on ebay and it looks like a lot of the sellers of the knock offs are located in the U.S.
They are shipped to the US from China and sold from port rats to trick dopes into thinking they are American made.
Personally after all the money I spend to get I'm the field to hunt I will gladly spent a few extra dollars to use premium broadheads and bullets to increase my odds of bagging game. Just my 2 cents
Don't worry about these guys being touchy about it man. It's capitalism. I bought them because if they were legit you get like what 12 for the price of three rages?! That's a no brainer for some of us counting our deer hunting pennies so whatever with that argument. Anyway, I've shot them and I believe they'll deploy but they have some issues for sure. The biggest problem is that the collar assembly doesn't keep the blades tight. The blades have a little movement. To a bunch of dudes in china who never hunt they probably just didn't notice this. But for me I picked up on it pretty quick. There's a little vibrating metal sound that sounds like a couple of keys being jangled a little bit. I drew back with em and you could really hear it. A couple I could get to not make that noise but i just really don't wanna chance something like that. Rather get the quality product. There's a lot of things you can go cheap on (clothing, boots, boats, etc...) but when it comes to things that could really effect your success after the shot you really wanna have that part down. Just my 2 cents. Sent from my iPhone using Bowhunting.com Forums
I agree... im not condoning illegal activity lol you're telling me you don't buy anything from China? Really? I understand what you're saying and I appreciate your principles however, I don't think it's right to beat up on this guy for trying to stretch his budget. Some of us can't afford to have American made everything. If you can that's great and my hats off to you. Doesn't make the guy a criminal who buys something from China though. These broadheads are not rages, not advertised as rages and obviously don't carry the design specs of a rage. You pretty much know you're getting crap when you buy em. You get what you pay for. You can play around with them or have as back ups but that's about it. Sent from my iPhone using Bowhunting.com Forums
Buying goods from China or other countries isn't illegal. These knockoffs actually are. Feredyne has legal patents. It is against the law to import and sell these knock offs. Sent from my iPhone using Bowhunting.com Forums
How is this guy supposed to know the legal standing of these broadheads? He comes to this forum for help about some broadheads and there are guys saying that he deserves to get kicked in the nutts for it! Really? Like he's freakin Benedict Arnold for making a $25 dollar purchase. It's ridiculous is my point! But back to your point. Yes, they shouldn't be selling them if they are doing so illegally. Sent from my iPhone using Bowhunting.com Forums
Hopefully he and others are now made aware that the dirty rotten scum thieves in China that are stealing these designs are still trying to sell them and he wont be party to the theft by being a dirty rotten scum purchaser of stolen goods.
Pretty sure there are quite a bit of American corporations and people who have gotten away with illegal activity in the name of capitalism.
Why isn't Ebay forced to take them off their website ? Or Amazon for that matter? Don't forget your fearless leader too Sota.
It is pretty much up to each of us as individuals to do our due diligence when making purchases. If I was going to think about buying these MoKasi knock-offs the first thing I'm going to need to see is a website for them. Quick search and there is nothing I can find.
This is what I posted on another website. ""I didn't lose a job to an archery company but I have lost a job from an automobile company (Ford) because they shipped the product to be manufactured overseas. I know first hand the feeling of that. My wife and I were both victims of that many years ago. I remember almost a year going by and my wife was still hopeful they would call her back. I moved on right away. That car company still didn't lower their prices at all. It was just more money for them and I went to the unemployment line for about a two months. I would buy American if it was truly made in America. Being assembled in America does not mean made in America. For all of you that want to stay patriotic I commend you for it. Sometimes our budget does not allow us to stay patriotic if we want to continue doing what we do. We have to look for the better deal. Now I drive a Toyota Tundra, because I got a better deal."" Call it what you will (theft, etc, etc). I don't think they may be as good quality as the real deal but if they work then they work,
