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Kisser Button

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by bowandarrows, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. bowandarrows

    bowandarrows Weekend Warrior

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    I couldn't find the thread, but I read one on the benefits of having a kisser button on your string. I went and got one today and immediately felt more confident after I installed it. If you don't have one, get one.
     
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    Do you have to take the string off? How do you know exactly where to put it?
     
  3. tfox

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    IMO a kisser button is a crutch that can prevent one from becoming the best archer they can be.

    They just crimp on like a brass Nock in most cases.

    The problem with them is most are too large and can cause ones reference point to float around a bit.


    Plus I see alot have them in the wrong place and they use them even though everything doesn't line up properly.

    I have a drawer full of them that I have taken off after teaching how to anchor and use 2 reference points on their face properly.Never had anyone ask to have them put back on.

    But they have been used successfully by many hunters for years. If they make you more confident then go with it.

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  4. bowandarrows

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    Slip it over the string and crimp it tight. The kisser button comes with a slot in it.
     
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    i like and feel comfortable with the kiss button,however i don't actually use a "kiss button" as to me they feel to large and don't like the hard plastic. instead i use one of my eliminator buttons in place of the kisser button. smaller, but can still. feel it in corner of my mouth, plus lot softer. works very well for me.
     
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    How exactly do you aim without one ?? I haven't had a bow long and one was installed when I bought my bow. I would like to know how to aim without one in case the string doesn't let it line up just right when I draw. After you anchor do you aim along the string or what ?
     
  7. tfox

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    The favorite method is to anchor the release hand on or behind the jaw bone. Run the string across the corner of your mouth and across the tip of your nose. Then circle the peep around the pin housing.

    Something like this

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    Or this


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    I took mine off last year. I'll never put another on my bow. Shoot tons better without it IMO.
     
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    muzzyman88 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Yep, like tfox said, they are more of a crutch. I used one for years myself. Then, after getting "learned" 10 or so years ago, I pulled mine off and never looked back. My issue with them, from a hunting standpoint, is that if you happen to wear a facemask, its hard to feel the kisser anyway.

    What I started doing was tying a nock point with serving thread on the string where my nose touches the string. I can feel this easily with a facemask on because my nose is always uncovered. Works for me anyway.
     
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    I use a kisser and believe I am fine with or without it. However, my bow has a shorter ATA and a nose anchor s not possible. Just my 2 cents
     
  11. tfox

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    This is a huge misconception that has been spread throughout the internet and local ranges. I have Seen it posted alot, especially on AT.

    If you have a really short nose and EXTREMELY short bow it might be an issue. In that case you should consider a little longer bow.


    Watch this video of a very respected coach/archer explaining how this is done.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEdr3DAoj4I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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  12. bowandarrows

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    I don't want to cause friction on this thread, I know sometimes people can seem defensive when they're not. A lot of you guys have been members of this site longer than I've been interested in archery and this also seems to be like many topics, pick what works for you and go for it. Please don't take this as a slight on any of your opinions which are much appreciated.

    I was looking for more clarification on the kisser button being a "crutch". How is its ability to help me different than having a release, a sight, or cams on my bow?
     
  13. tfox

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    They're a crutch because they promote poor references. You can use them with some success to cover up poor form or setup but in the end, they do not help accuracy but can have the opposite effect. They are large which means the reference your using is large and there is room for inconsistency.


    They work well for their intended purpose. Quick hunting reference for those that have not learned the proper form/anchors/ references.

    You won't see many target archers use them, if you do, it will be a small serving knot either for the corner of the mouth or tip of nose.

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    Ok. Kisser Button.

    Pay attention to where your anchor point is every time until it's second nature. Then take that kisser butting OFF! When you are wearing cold weather hats where you can't feel the button at the corner of your mouth, you're going to find yourself while on the draw on a deer, literally looking for the button to line up on your mouth.

    You ARE better off finding your anchor point and tip of your nose ONLY. You really don't need it even though you think you do.
     
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    I dont use a kisser. However i am also unable to put my nose on the string. I shoot a z7 extreme and have a 29.5 draw. I think that combination of long dl and short ata makes it impossible to do so.

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    [HR][/HR]

    Not impossible
     
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    Even though it gives me another point to reference, get rid of it after I become more advanced because in time it will become my only reference point?
     
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    I took mine off, my anchor is easy to be consistent with, my right index fingers knuckle that's closest to the palm at the base of my finger goes right under my earlobe every time so it's kind of hard to mess my anchor point up, so to me the kisser button was nothing but weight on the string now all I have is a d loop and a g5 meta peep
     
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    I find it funny to see big name hunters like Tom Moranda and others using one. I thought about getting one but like people have mentioned, it seems like something else to go wrong when you start to rely on it.
    I'm always trying to make my bow lighter ans simpler.
     

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