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Kinetic energy vs speed

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by OKhunter, Jan 24, 2012.

  1. brucelanthier

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    Do you realize how ridiculous the second sentence makes your first sentence sound? The "hypothetical" arrow now? LOL Too much.
     
  2. Vito

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    Stupidity makes my brain hurt.

    Oh, I forgot to add --> :lol:
     
  3. Sticknstringarchery

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    No, but what I do realize is that I think way different than you. You think real world, I process numbers. Oh and not hypothetical arrow. hypothetical "bow". lol

    I'll stick with my light set up. I personally feel there are more advantages to it. Its my personal preference.


    Oh and wasn't the OP posting asking about KE vs speed? Not momentum? :lol:
     
  4. brucelanthier

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    Yes, you do think differently than me.
     
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    Now why couldn't you have posted this to begin with?? I will read it and I am sure it will make plenty of since.

    Is it OK for me to believe my light setup it completly adequate for deer??
     
  6. Sticknstringarchery

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    Mine too!! I am glad we are on the same page!!! :dan:
     
  7. Backcountry

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    Your still missing the point.. Perhaps you should master the concept of momentum, now.

    And for the record...you just proved yourself wrong. We are not talking hypothetical's, we are talking about real world experiences with real world effects.
     
  8. Matt9589

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    I prefer to shoot a heavier arrow at the cost of speed for many reasons:
    1- Quiets the bow
    2- Downrange accuracy
    3- Penetration at longer distances
    4- Better broadhead control (with higher FOC)
    5- Knockdown power (KE)


    Speed is over rated imo
     
  9. brucelanthier

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    Funny, it will say the same thing I have been telling you and apparently I wasn't making sense.

    I am sure your setup is fine for deer but keep in mind: I can kill deer with a field tip but now my margin for error is extremely slim. The more forgiveness you build into your setup the larger the margin for error. I prefer a large margin of error, that is why I keep my shot at less than 25yds and use heavier, slower arrows.
     
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    Adequate to kill a deer? Yes
    Adequate enough to give you extra insurance for every situation, IMHO.. No

    My personal feelings are that you are not shooting your bow at optimal performance.
     
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    ???????????? My BRAIN HURTS!!!!!!!!!!
     
  12. brucelanthier

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    What do you know? You have never setup a hypothetical bow, just 100's of real bows that shoot real arrows into real animals.
     
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    All irrelevant.
     
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    Your're right Bruce... I forfeit:evilgrin:
     
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    Whew! I'm so glad to see you post something that parallels what I said. I was beginning to think that your "ignorance in this thread is astounding" statement was aimed at me. :lol:
     
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    What you were saying made sence. If it didn't I would have said "I believe Bruce is wrong".

    I don't want to rely on my margin of error to kill deer. PLease don't think that I see you as wrong for that in any way. I'll study what you have posted and who knows maybe I will go up a few gr. Never know.

    Do you think wanting speed is wrong or is it just something you don't personally care about?
    Genuine question. Not baiting.
     
  17. brucelanthier

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    I think almost all of us parallel what you were saying, Johnny. You know as much about this stuff as anyone. I still reference your "wet feather" fletching experiment. Maybe you could repost that and the pictures again here. It would be very useful for those that are concerned about wet feathers.
     
  18. Vito

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    How did your first two shots at deer a with bow go?

    Maybe you should.
     
  19. Sticknstringarchery

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    Only one hit out of the two. and you know how that went. High. I had a different set up also. Had I put the shot dead on, it would have turned out better. Now what? A heavier arrow would have made all the difference in the world huh??
     
  20. brucelanthier

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    I think seeking speed over forgiveness in a setup is a recipe for problems. When you join speed, lack of forgiveness and inexperience we get threads about unrecovered deer. Most that are fairly new to bowhunting don't even understand the forgiveness part but they do understand speed so that is what they go with.
     

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