I think we have been shooting them for the past three or four years. Overall I have been happy with them. We have never had any issues with the blades breaking or bending on them. As french stated we haven't always had complete pass throughs. Usually we get them to penetrate through the opposite side but not blow all the way through. I would agree with TY we don't shoot heavy enough arrows. This is something that I am going to change in my arsenal next year. Overall they have been a great head for us. In my opinion the 2 in. killzones with the cut on contact head is the best one in the killzone lineup of broad heads.
Appreciate the honesty in what I assume was/is the main reason why we don't see as many pass throughs on bhod as I guess we'd think we would. Some just don't like heavy arrow set ups for whatever reason, some do.
My biggest problem is that Im not a gear guy. Ive never paid any attention to arrow weight or any of that stuff. I just pick up whatever I have and go hunting. I am going to go to a heavier arrow next year for sure.
I guarantee you will love what it does for you...first pass through or blown shoulder and you'll be hooked. Get that FOC up as well!
I used one for the first time this year. Don't know what happened, but the arrow took a HARD right after entering the deer. Broadside shot, went in the pocket, and came out way back just in front of the rear leg. Didn't go far. Can't complain, just never had an arrow turn in a deer like that. Made the gutting messy.
I had a double lung passthrough on a buck, breaking ribs on both sides. The deer went 40 yards. The exit was 1/3 up from the bottom of the chest, and surprisingly there was not much of a blood trail. My nephew recently killed two deer and both were down in sight with double lung hits. My brother has shot and killed eight deer with them, and has had very short blood trails. He did have one issue on a 205 lb buck. He drilled it through the lungs, and the deer dropped in sixty yards, but the exit hole looked like a 22 caliber hole. The tiny little pivot bolt that holds the blades apparently sheared. The blades were perpendicular to the ribs on entrance, and didn't make it all the way through the deer. They apparently fully disengaged at the exit wound ribs. I spoke with NAP and they indicated that the early version of the Killzone had been reworked, so their shouldn't be any issue. NAP was awesome to deal with, and sent me a new pack of heads! It would be nice to see a beefier blade pin though. I continue to use Killzones, and I know that a shoulder blade or heavy bone hit may be problematic. It could be for any head (although I did shoot a Slick Trick through the heaviest part of the shoulder bone on a buck that went 310 yards). But for the vast majority of deer that I've taken in my life, hits have been soft tissue. So for me, having a 2" cut and an extremely accurate head is where I am for now.
I've shot 5 deer with them now. Two of them were shot high in the spine and did not pass through. 3 of them were shot in the heart/lungs with very broadside shots and they passed through clean. All 5 heads had no issues with the blades but two of the aluminum ferrules (the spine shots) were slightly bent and wouldn't spin test after. I've been very happy with mine so far, I'll continue to use them.
I guess its all about chance. I have shot a hand full of game with them and yet to have one break or bend.
I've taken four deer and an antelope with the Killzones. None of them had damage to any of the blades.
First I think you need to define what a pass through is? Are we simply talking about having both an entrance and an exit hole regardless of whether the arrow "passes through" the entire animal? Or is it only a pass through if the arrow comes cleanly out the other side and sticks into the dirt? I would say 80+% of the shots leave both an entrance and exit hole even if the arrow doesn't fly out the other side and bury into the ground. Let's face facts here - any time you shoot a 2" mechanical broadhead, regardless of type, combined with a light weight arrow you're going to see fewer complete pass through shots. It's simply the nature of that type of setup and has been since those heads were invented. This certainly isn't anything new, nor is is specific to the Killzone. The desire for massive entrance holes and big blood trails has lead to the popularity of the big mechanical broadhead and in the process we've sacrificed penetration and broadhead durability. Shocking, I know. And what's to be nervous about? Hit them when you're supposed to and they're certainly not going very far.
Cant tell the amount of penetration and I don't know your arrow length but that doesn't inspire confidence. I shoot fixed head but a complete pass through arrow in the dirt bleeds well and can push through the off side shoulder if need be.
I killed my first deer with the trophy tip 100gr, full pass through with one blade broken off. Shot one into my block target for practice and broke one off as well. I've stopped using them and now shoot fixed blades. I have tried a good percentage of mechanicals in practice and all have left me feeling uneasy, I exclusivly shoot a fixed blade now, even a bunch of those aren't the greatest either. I have found Slicktrick Vipertrick to be my go to head, hundreds of dollars later mind you
I'm not anti any head...but I want penetration personally. I wanna pack a punch should bone, especially a shoulder sadly be hit...ever since switching back to fixed heads (slick tricks) every deer I've shot the arrow has slammed through and into the ground (all but one standing with head an inch or more into the dirt). Shots of 25, 18, 30 and 22 as I remember...2 dropped in sight, 2 within 100 yards. Plenty lethal enough for me. Justin stated it correctly though and honestly that when switching to massive diameter mechanicals one sacrifices penetration potential...combine that with a low FOC and arrow weight and you sacrifice even more. Not going to lie the allure of the Killzones makes me think about using them...but I never can get over the sheer fact I personally desire the highest penetration potential possible without going crazy.
I also shoot a fixed blade broadhead. What's your point? Nobody is arguing that a fixed blade penetrates better than a mechanical. We know that they do.
That's fine i'm not here to argue either. I simply think that picture in the vitals isn't good enough when shot placement can only go down from there.
You still failed to answer my question. Does the arrow have to pass through the entire animal in tact and be laying on ground or will both an entry and exit wound suffice, even if the arrow was still inside the animal when it ran off? Ultimately I don't think it should matter. If all we care about is poking two holes should we worry about how far the arrow goes once the second hole is open? No idea. I didn't personally inspect every animal that was shot. Very low compared to what? I certainly don't think it's any lower than it's been in years past. Back to my original point - you don't get a high percentage of pass through shots with any large cutting diameter broadhead regardless of brand. It's simply the nature of the beast. I'm not even sure what the point of this conversation even is anymore.
I care because I'd rather have two holes with nothing in them to stop bleeding then something plugging the hole. And I think more of what people are saying is people shooting big mechanicals could benefit from shooting heavier arrows. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
