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Killings in California, lets blame the guns.,

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  1. Skywalker

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    Define better? I could argue that the USA is clearly a better place live than just about anywhere else I the world. Hence why we are such a melting pot of people from all over the world moving here.

    There's a difference between accepting immigrants from around the would that go through our vetting process, and accepting refugees from a country with known terrorist activity and without the proper background checks. If 1 in 100 is a terrorist, that's 1 too many so yeah, we don't want to take that risk. Canada can have them all, you have plenty of room for them.

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    they confirmed today the couple were isis. they found her facebook page pledging her allegiance to isis. so now isis is attacking publicly in our country I think there are going to be major changes coming in the near future. heard on the news this afternoon about trying to enforce the 25th amendment against dirtbag Obama. finally somebody is going to try and do something against our terrorist president. the should have impeached him long ago.
     
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    Impeach for what? Being a bonehead?


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    I would start with failure to uphold the Constitution that he swore to uphold.

    What differentiates this free country from most others is the rule of law and when our president picks and chooses which laws he likes and decides to not enforce and directs others to not enforce existing law and the congress won't stand up and do their job to block the president from overstepping his authority.......

    there goes freedom and the American way of life.
     
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    A case could also be made for negotiating with terrorists (without confessional approval) for Bergdahl...but that kinda got buried.
     
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    So what laws has he decided not to obey, let's get a list, I want to send this to my senator.



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    Laws he's ordered not to be enforced actually, disobeying laws is another can of worms.
     
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    He's pissed all over the constitution, and I don't mean like a dribble, I mean a full on Austin Powers kinda whiz that's been going on since he was sworn in.........
     
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    The gov. is eventually going to get the black rifles, mags, and possibly even the ammo. Buy this stuff while you still can if you have any desire to have it.
     
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    Again what are these laws?


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    We could start with the border and "undocumented visitors" to our country.
     
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    Well we have more border guards on the southern border, so are we paying for more guards and ignoring laws?


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    I can't seem to find any hard numbers of what exactly we have or have had historically, posted on the border. I've seen a few charts that go only up to 2012 that seem to show an increase in the budget but a drop in arrests, deportations and number of border patrol agents through the late 2000's...but nothing really reliable.

    No mistaking the 36,000 inmates that were turned loose though and O talking about ICE needs to be going after "hard" criminals rather than undocumented workers. Sanctuary cities and the list goes on and on.
     
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    Um, yes, actually. Exactly.
     
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    Well, you can start with pretty much the entire INA.
     
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    We shouldn't be paying extra when we have a military more then capable of policing our borders.
     
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    No disagreement there. But of the viable candidates only Trump and Cruz have the cojones to do that.
     

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